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wouldnt that give me a simple open rear again instead of a peep? I have a semi buckhorn rear and man can you get to searching for the front sight at times... I"m sure its why I"ve consistently hit higher than I wanted to on everything but a javelina I shot mid day when I could see the sigh...

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I dunno about what the 357 would do, all I can say is on the 3 deer and 1 javelina so far, none survived... Shot placement whether I use a 22 or my 50 bmg is paramount... who would think a doe could run after a 50 bmg went through both lungs? Much less run 100 yards or so with NO blood traill..........

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Locating a bullet in the right place, I recall my mentor saying his dad always took a pipe and tobacco with them on a hunt, smaller whitetails, and the 22, with a solid short. Would poke one in the ribs at say 20-30 yards around a water hole spring they had, then smoke a pipe and listen ....usually ...

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Been told the same thing a few times. Seems to work just fine, assuming some common sense is used. Even worked with puny cowboy loads I was warned to not use. I also suspect it has a lot to do with distance limitations and shot placement, and the fact that I haven't taken anything over say 125 pound...

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Sorry no photos this time but I did not hit exactly where I wanted to and thought I'd pass this along. 1902 manufacture of an 1892 IIRC, running 11-12 grains of something... hows that... my load stuff is packed up for moving... haven't loaded for it since last December... 90 grain hornady xtp bullet...

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problem is the bulge won't allow them to chamber. Had the same issue years back with 357 mags in a python, they had a visible bulge but chambered and extracted and shot fine.

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Haven't shot enough to be able to tell, that being said I shot a couple to verify zero and pressure levels, IE will case extract, and then shot the javelina and thats been it. I don't have any that are not offcenter in one way or another to compare to. They are bad enough that i have to chamber each...

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Is the M included in the Lyman set? Or a seperate purchase?

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Will give that a try I think. Seems strange that the belling operation starts things being off line already seems, if I size, and then only slighty expand instead of that thing going down in the case off center already, I may be ahead of the game. By 1/8 inch, thats what you mean, only down the neck...

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May call lee or just look for a better set of dies. Would seem a lot of work to seat just a bit at a time, and if so, putting the die on the shellholder would start the crimp basically way to hard and early if I'm thinking right, IE I only screw the seater die till the crimp bumps, then back it off ...

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That isn't doing it, any more advice? Hand dies could work but seem a PITA, would a set of say REdding or Forster possibly make a difference? Anyone ever call LEE and ask? I don't generally like LEE but thats what came with the gun and ammo.

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I generally rotate ALL of my loads 180 while seating. I did same with this and it was actually seemed worse so I started seating with one stroke... I had to chamber the rounds 5-6 times to get them "straight" enough to lock up and not be stuck, the bright note is that the case ejected just...

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You can tell I"m not a lever gun nut, I only come when I need info... but I am enjoying the 32-20 for sure. 2 deer down so far, and took it on a hog hunt, found a hog I didn't trust the 32 to, but did find a javelina. Head shot about 50 yards freehand did the trick. A hornady JHP at 11.5 of 422...

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Yotes around here can get rough on fawns every now and then. But we don't get snow so they are not much of a danger to deer in general. Funny how it can be different in other areas. But very understandable. Now they do kill our cats and probably our small dogs if they could. Heck on rabbits and the ...

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Not by choice and I'm not defending it, but I ended up with a couple of china pocket knives. hit the junk on the bench grinder with sharpening wheels on it and they both take a razors edge quickly and hold up to cleaning a deer.... like I said, FWIW only. Personally I use Havalon scalpel pocket knif...

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Nice info! I simply know from shooting that the 13 might be safe, but not in this gun/chamber. I"m not sure if its pressure only or some pitting in the chamber but know that I'm going to back down and start over. Nice info that its still in the ballpark of when the powder came out though. A few...

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My bad, back seat.....

Can't shoot the gun until we do a chamber cast. No need in a chamber cast unless ammo is available.

Jeff

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Thanks. Jeff

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I can figure out how to look for the firing pin... hadn't thought of rimfire. Here is the next question, I"m assuming its probably an 1866 now, is 44 rimfire made anymore? The owner wants to shoot it, I"m not in the know of things like that. Other than I know where some old boxes of 32 rim...

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Quick search lead to Uberti 1876 and it looks like those except they don't have a picture from the top, to see if its open. Has that lock looking thing for the lever too.

Also had a trapdoor in the buttstock.

Forgive my levergun ignorance here.

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sorry, don't have a camera and only had a chance to look at it in the back of a guys truck. I"ll have to google and see if I can find a link then.

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Trying to ID a gun and caliber. Has no caliber markings I could see. Reciever looks brass or brass color. Winchester lever gun. Yellow Boy? Like maybe 1876? I'm just guessing without research. Anyway it remarks on the barrel, Winchester etc.. Kings Patent etc... and dates of what looks like 1866 and...

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Ain't shooting that load anymore, other than the 2 I have left. One round crushed on crimping... Then its time to back it off and see what we have. I'm not fond of pressure in these guns.

Jeff

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Will they shoot? I ran them in competition to 1000 yards from 89-03. I haven't shot much since. But with a good AR I have shot 5 shot groups down to 1.5 inches at 600 yards with one fluke? group of basically 1.25 inches. I generally get an easy 3 inch group at 600 and pretty easy to get to 10 shot g...

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I'll go back to 11 with the 100s, and then work forward as needed/if needed. With that bullet expanding at that speed, I think it'll do fine also 200 fps slower if I end up like that. Gotta check accuracy too. At 12 yards it wasn't an issue and I knew a max shot was about 25 yards or I'd pass. I nee...

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Octagon tube FWIW. Watch out on your hunt, I believe your deer are bigger than ours. I'm not 100% sure of how much that bullet will penetrate. I'd avoid the shoulders going in if at all possible. Lets just say I could see plenty of blood at the hit, and lots coming out as he ran off and that was a g...

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Well, quick part of this story for those that have followed.... I wasn't expecting to do anything more this season with my gun. But got back from the deer lease and got a wild hair, loaded 5 rounds, 13 of 4227 and 100 xtps... shot one, it was same 3 inches high up close. Had a tight schedule as it w...

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I've probably gone through 200K rounds of 223 in ARs over the years in competition, DI all the way. If its clean you are worrying about, I can run a whole season of shooting 8-10K rounds with only wiping the upper out and cleaning the bolt carrier a few times.

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Yep if ours were 200-300 I don't think I'd try it. Though running 100-200 yards can be fairly common with any hit. Even one hit with my 50 bmg made over 200 yards with holes through the lungs. I'll update next year again. Glenn- much appreciated on the front, I think I may end up with aperture in th...

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Finally got a note from Precision Cartridge..... they did not quote MV, but did say it was a mild load, not suggested for game. I guess when its stuck in the right place it still does the job. I've got some leads on hard cast, with soft lead possibly hp cast ones to mess with next season on more dee...

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Good to know on the tapered slot. I did not know they were like the taper pins on an AR. I already tapped the rear sight to adjust windage, and it went both ways. I'm already thinking the right lyman rear and a lyman front that will accept apertures etc.... Would make it much more shootable. Jeff

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Nice info! And yep its winchester.
Thanks so far.

Jeff

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Oh I pitched her up in the samuri with no problem, live weight I'd say at 90 pounds maybe?? Was a mature doe so probably in that range, I don't think this one hit 100. I had no doubt about penetration, heck any 22lr will do the same thing all day long at taht range and hit in the ribs. The ricochet ...

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The same thing, basically, the quick load on MZ barrels seems to hamper accuracy actually but its deeper than 1/4 inch. Personally I'd shoot it first, having seen M98s that looked bad, give close to an inch with the right ammo.

Beyond that, i'd nip and recrown instead of rebarreling for sure.

Jeff

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Though I believe in making my guns as shootable as I can, I was about to file and adapt on the original sights of the 1892 I have. Then it was suggested to save them and buy a new front sight and new rear or tang sight. So I'm all open, for new front, new rear and new tang sight to go on, no drillin...

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Yep punches are ok, but roll pin punches are nicer. But just go easy, I put my first 3 together with standard punches and no tape etc... no scars. AR15 links are good and if you have any issues you can PM me too here or on 24 hour campfire. I've been dealing with ARs for years now and can put one to...

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Never have been home with enough light to shoot it over the chrony. I shoudl have a set of dies here Tuesday. I have 100 xtp and 2400 sitting and brass ready to load. So after this, its all different ammo again. As to post mortem.... thats not gonna happen either, we gut at camp and take home quarte...

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I am very sorry, I had a quick chance to get to the deer lease and the wife was out of the house on a story assignment for her paper with the cameras. So I have no pics. This is what I can say though. First I need to do some sight work on the sights. They just don't get it for early and late and vis...

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How many rounds do you fire when hunting? Not many if any. A few to zero the gun. Thats not expensive, its just a cost with hunting. Now I wouldn't practice with Barnes but they are some of the best bullets ever made. I run them in about everything I shoot, they provide expansion and penetration. Th...

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I use the same 85 at about 2800 in an AR in 6mm. It will still go stem to stern at over 200 yards. Had to follow a blood trail a bit worse than normal but she was dead when we found her. Given she was looking at me and knew we were there when I shot, I didn't expect anything but a death run.

Jeff

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Very interesting replies. As noted I shot competition a lot. Up to or over 10K rounds a year with irons. And from standing, sitting, some kneeling, and prone. With irons I never had big changes. Evidently its either the sights or how I'm not used to them or a quirk of the old lever gun. Thanks, I'll...

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Follow through is used as I always do, I don't see what happens just follow the rifle in recoil so I don't think the butt could be dropping. I'll just have to shoot it more.

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Thoughts and prayers from Texas. Tough thing to do. Hope you heal well. Dogs are our life, it hurts.
Jeff

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Curious. I'm a good enough shot. Especially with irons as I compete with them. But aperture rear and post front. I dont' find much if any variance between sitting, standing and prone, maybe 1/4 to 1/2 moa. We recently ran about 15 rounds through my 1892, post front semi buckhorn rear. Was zero'd in ...

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Congrats! RE the 223... I use 63 semi points and 62 tsx. In 223. The 62 tsx will run lengthwise through an average deer, say 150 pounds, and usually exit.... its not a neck only gun. Especially when the neck is a riskier target than the head is actually. Rib shots will kill em all day long with eith...

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I've seen a ringed gun before. 7 mag. It shot just fine with the ring out to 200 yards, it was about a 3-4 inch gun. Owner wanted better for longer shots... rebarreled it. But I'd shoot it before giving up so quick unless you need great accuracy. Often times we think we need more than we really do. ...

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Hobie, I think you know this well, and forgive me as I'm a newbie here.... I wanted to know if the trajectory matched anything normal, not if I should or should not shoot, that got it OT quick. But its much appreciated, no one knows what I know etc... The weekend, did not work out right, had one doe...

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On mach or not, I've not been downrange at impact, only way I personally can tell for sure if its supersonic or not. Penetration on our little deer is not anything I"m worried about. What does bother me is I generally like a little expansion, but may or may not get that. Of course I never reall...

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What I can tell you is we shot a few 5 shot groups at 25, then 2 groups at 50 while centering teh sights, and then 1 group at 100 just to see, not that I intend for the shots to even be 50 yards. But just in case. My vision is not great with open sights. Give me an aperture rear and I could be sure....

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