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El Mac

I just received my 444 Marlin back from Marlin repair shop. I had the Micro-groove barrel replaced with a Ballard rifled one. They charged me $155 which included parts, labor and return shipping. Only problem was I asked them to return my old barrel. They did not return it. Only shot it at 50 yards...

El Mac

El Mac, if you'll get a copy of Veral Smith's book on cast bullets he compares the Microgroove barrels to Harry Pope's barrels. He says the Marlin barrel of today is as close to a Pope barrel as any modern manufacturer can make. It will shoot a properly fit cast bullet as good as any. Just in case ...

El Mac

Not so much a cartridge change...mainly want the Ballard rifling as I've heard Micro-grooves don't handle lead cast rounds as well (?) Wow really ? I'm glad you brought that to my attention . That means all those tagrets I shot over the last 12 years and all those deer I killed with Micro groove ba...

El Mac

Not so much a cartridge change...mainly want the Ballard rifling as I've heard Micro-grooves don't handle lead cast rounds as well (?) and more importantly, I want the octagon shape.

El Mac

Anyone know of a good source for Marlin barrels (Ballard cut) to replace the micro-groove ones?

El Mac

All it really needs ia bout 3" of rail out there at the end of the forearm. The whole length rail thing is not really useful. And I'd keep the wood looking well, like wood. Otherwise, I like the concept.

El Mac

No worries Buck...

El Mac

I can easily push 250 grain hard-cast .45 Colt bullets out of my 7 1/2" Beretta Stampede (or a Colt SAA) at 1200 fps.. All it takes is a load of H-4198 powder.. The same load gives me just over 1500 fps in a Uberti '73 rifle, so I guess you could say I just ain't too impressed.. In my old .45 ...

El Mac

I agree with you there Buck. But I think a traditional tubular magazine fed levergun in .45 acp is still a winner. I've seen C.E. Harris' charts for loads and there are some good loads to be had in a longer barrel (other than a 5" 1911). True, they may not be 'magnum' in nature, but a 255 gr. ....

El Mac

Most people think a 45 ACP levergun is a waste of time, but for me it is my two favorite things in one. Shooting a 1911 and a Levergun with a 200 gr H&G #68! I think there is already a hell of a market for a factory made .45 acp levergun...and it would grow once folks saw it out there - the lig...

El Mac

Palmtreee wrote:Dave made the conversion about 2 years ago. I leather work as a hobby so I wanted a butt cuff that carries a 1911 mag for my 1911 or ammo for the 1894.

Very well done!

What was the cost of the conversion itself?

El Mac

Palmtreee wrote:David Clay of DRC can make you a 45 ACP lever, mine loves 200 grain SWC just like my 1911's.

Very cool...how long ago did he make that for you?

Also, the butt cuff...what is in the pocket?

El Mac

Thats a shame and a sham. Reckon I'll be getting some barrels from some place else.

I tried calling Marlin today - no joy. Message kept saying that due to high volume calling, they couldn't answer my call and just try again later.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.................

El Mac

I'm wanting to start this project. Would like to go with an octagon barrel, possibly a longer magazine tube to match along with improving the wood. Any ideas on where I can get a barrel and/or mag tube? Thanks... Didn't Marlin have a program that would do this for you at the factory, if your rifle ...

El Mac

I'm wanting to start this project. Would like to go with an octagon barrel, possibly a longer magazine tube to match along with improving the wood.

Any ideas on where I can get a barrel and/or mag tube?

Thanks...

El Mac

Thankye sir! Nice looking lever there. Reminds me of the project that WWG was touting for a time though I don't think it ever went into production.

El Mac

Birdman wrote:I'm wondering the same thing. I read Jeff Quinn's article about it some time back. Sounds like a horse. DRC is advertising a S-W 500 lever too.

DRC? Who? Do you have a link?

El Mac

Digging up an older thread...but did this gun ever "make it" out of the chute?

El Mac

Malamute wrote:I cut my 86 carbine to 20". I really like it this length. No regrets.

Nice rig. How many rounds does your carbine hold now?

El Mac

Found one, but I really remember a different butt. Maybe there are two? http://www.levergunscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14889&p=180022&hilit=chopped+browning+1886&sid=11c0473fe83abb52c330eb7b368eb3b1#p180022 What a sweet looking rifle! I may have to find another one of these W...

El Mac

Has anyone ever done a project like this?

El Mac

Does anyone have a good contact email or phone number for Mic? Can't find it on his website....

Thanks...

El Mac

Does anyone know of a quality 'smith that is willing to convert a Miroku 86 and/or 92 to a non-rebounding hammer set up? I have a Browning hammer that I'd like to use. Thankye...

El Mac

I thought you boys couldn't have guns anymore???

El Mac

the number one thing on there minds like I said would be there pocket = FOOD ON THE TABLE.. Its not the government's job to put food on the table. Never has been and if we submit to that, then we deserve what we get. Also you fellows have come down pretty hard on the fellow from Cooper Arms for sup...

El Mac

CowboyTutt wrote: We are only in this predictament because the Republican Party became too arrogant for its own good.

-Tutt

Amen!

El Mac

AJMD429 wrote: ...But they'll never do it. They'll always be 'Democrat Lite' - and they'll always be 'the lesser of two evils.'

Retards.

Yup

El Mac

Whoever elected him wasn't paying attention! Unfortunately, they were, but just don't care. You are known by the friends you keep. I can't believe anyone would openly claim to be a Democrat... I may be misremembering, but I think Washington DC elected a drug addict mayor even after he got out of pr...

El Mac

You wouldn't believe me if I told you...

El Mac

Murtha is a post-modern foaming at the mouth TURDASSOURASS.

I'd love to see this chump walk the plank.

El Mac

45Jack wrote:I would expect them to all be on the gun rights band wagon.

Its just one of those "who woulda thunk it?" type of questions... there is just no answer for it. You would think of anyone in this country, those two "groups" would be banging the war drums all in favor of the 2A!!!

El Mac

OI, I couldn't agree more forcefully with you on this one.

El Mac

What a turd:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/25 ... -of-palin/

Makes me want to

El Mac

She doesn't have to lie about all of this. She could confirm the facts about her stances as governor and say that she has a different perspective now that she is in a national race. Or she could disagree with McCain, as she does on some other issues. I think that people would appreciate that sort o...

El Mac

FWiedner wrote: Until then, she just doesn't matter.

This is political naivity at its finest. She matters greatly if she gets McCain elected. DC operates on payback. Learn it, live it, love it or not, accept it.

El Mac

It's sad to see people so blinded by party loyalty that they cannot objectively scrutinze the qualifications of a candidate for high office. Quite the contrary. Neither McCain or Palin in necessarily loved by the Party...particularly the party elite that populate the District of stuff, Communism, C...

El Mac

Lipstick on a pig!!

El Mac

Gibson is a frustrated gay man. He's dying to be Hillary Clinton. He gets cherry-eyed every time Ted Kennedy fanny burbs. And, he's shopping for property in Venezuela to build his and Obama's dream home. Other than that, he's a nice guy. bogie Thats the funniest darn thing I've read in some time! :...

El Mac

FWiedner wrote:I didn't see where Gibson was anything but serious and or professional.

Oh yes, he is quite the serious turd. (Excuse me while I blow chunks...)

El Mac

Link here:
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/store ... thumbnails

Better have a nice checkbook!

El Mac

Because they fought alongside us in our Iraq venure. Kinda like a bar fight. You back your bud's play. (And for all we know this may have been a coordinated event...) So, South Ossetia should not be allowed to vie for independence? I agree that they are going to regret allying with russia to do it,...

El Mac

And here we have the final nail in McCain's coffin:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/13 ... ack-obama/

El Mac

I support Georgia--Maj CT Lester US Army SF :evil: :arrow: Why? I can understand NOT supporting Russia, but why support the Georgians over South Ossetia? Because they fought alongside us in our Iraq venure. Kinda like a bar fight. You back your bud's play. (And for all we know this may have been a ...

El Mac

Excellent find OI. One of my pet peeves...

El Mac

they are NOT afraid to respond with force, to force, in aggression or defense and do what it takes to win...can we say the same? For our military - absolutely. For our panty waste politicians/media/MTV generation thumb suckers - absolutely not. they pay no attention to political correctness, nor do...

El Mac

Ysabel Kid wrote: Will the west abandon Georgia like it did with Czechoslovakia?

In a word, yes.

El Mac

Yeah. They looked so good to the feds, the Feds have decided to investigate them...

El Mac

That matte finish ain't doing it for me...

El Mac

I agree that it does not matter with his supporters but might make a difference in the important swing voters. Kind of hard to ask to be commander in chief when you were not willing to put your name in the hat. Clinton dodged the draft, and that bastage could be elected today if it was Constitution...

El Mac

I heard the same joke. But it was an Army Ranger instead of a Marine.

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