Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com

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Whaddya gonna say but good luck!! Hopefully someone (newbie) with more sense will check out this otherwise great thread! Btw, ++1 to the gent suggesting cheap '06 + a .22LR rifle to learn to shoot first.

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Major fan and true believer of the .270 and .30-30, and my choices for 40 years for their respective goodness, but for this gent's scenario +1 to the .30-06. The 7mm-08 comments were right on too--a stellar cartridge and the rifles that shoot it,...but for one caliber truly doing all it falls to the...

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Regarding the Taurus .32 H&R "catalog" item, not unless Taurus has resurrected it ("it" was a cataloged but never produced tube fed lever in short (the OP's referenced 16") and long(er) rifle configurations), in which case it'd now likely be a .327 anyway. Taurus teased ...

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Done. Good idea friend!

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I'm so sorry. These are tough losses, every one of them. (Too many times myself). They're all very much family. Non-dog folks never quite catch on, but it's so true. You'll get through it but will never forget...but you shouldn't anyway.

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Heartfelt thoughts for your dear friend and family. Gone through it too many times, myself. It's not an original thought, but it's never seemed quite fair that these beasts that are so lacking of any bad intent and being so pure of heart--sad to say, unlike a lot of our two legged kind--should have ...

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Welcome. Love those Pre-War SRCs!

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And to confuse matters further regarding the various variants of 92s out there, the Chiappa "Trappers" (16") available through Cimarron, etc, are not the traditional trappers which are basically shortened (from 20") round barrel'd carbines with barrel bands, but instead are short...

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Regarding the $800 (+) "Pumas," +1 to the comment on the Italians...it's confusing a lot of folks now. Legacy (LSI) terminated its relationship with Rossi (or vice versa?) about a year ago, and is now selling Armi Sport/Chiappa 1892s but retaining the "Puma" moniker it's used all...

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+1 Great looking horse and carbine! Always wainted a paint. Love those long-woods.

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For the cool list: +
B-17, P-82 Twin Mustang, F-100 Super Sabre, Boeing 707. Father flew 17s, 24s, 25s, 29s and A-20s in the war, B-50s (mod'd 29), B-36s and some B-47s after; B-17s and A-20s his favorites.

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Sounds great--did the same with The Rifleman a few years ago. Amazing how you can blast through a lot of episodes even in one sitting without the pesky commercials! Can I ask where you got--a win or regular deal? Thanks. PS. You might check this great article by Jeff out. Not sure, but I think this ...

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Mescalero1, I'm sorry I didn't catch your inquiry on the Phoenix show. I was one who continued to also wonder how it was as I was (and continue) fighting a very bad cold or (hopefully not) onset of flu and figured I'd do nothing but aggravate. I was really looking forward attending this "big on...

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A comment on Rossi's wood stocks is in order. I went to the gun show today and saw my first and second Rossi with the really dark wood that many have mentioned here. Both were Interarms imports and now I understand what you've been talking about. I say that because both my Rossi rifle and carbine h...

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Freakin' cold in Arizona: -5* to + 5* overnight or so up in the high country (which used to be a regular thing) and 25*-35* very chilly for us in Phoenix. Everything's relative folks! Big gun show here this weekend; it'll be interesting to see just how serious shooters are about checking things out ...

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Welcome aboard! +1 especially of you're not planning to scope it, at least look around at a Pre 64 (focusing on carbines here); basically three eras, 1) pre war where most were usually characterized by the gently curved "carbine" buttplates and "long wood" (compared to 1951 forwa...

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Regarding the overbore issue on the .44s, I don't know my Rossi serial numbers but Steve Young (aka Nate Kiowa Jones) recently reported that around Oct '06, I believe, the first corrected ones started appearing on the market after being off for awhile (the last few words are mine; don't know how for...

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Thanks all, that's what I was thinking. Now to find some of those old articles by O'Conner. Funny you should mention that: just in time for a Christmas present to yourself is a new book, just out, with a huge collection of O'Connor's articles! Just search "Jack O'Connor" on Amazon. For be...

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I am a happy 30 year Rossi owner (all pre safety Interarms and EMFs), and the excellent Browning B92s as well. That said, save for a very few years of Navy Arms Rossis sporting supposedly genuine walnut (and in limited calibers, 44-40s only a few years), the current Armi Sport/Chiappa 1892s (distrib...

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I agree. I think GB is a great buyers' and sellers' forum. I don't dabble in high-end, but have not been stung--yet in the low and middle zone. There is a certain amount of "Buyer beware" responsibility the buyer should shoulder as well, and the directive to ask questions before final bid ...

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OTOH, from a mostly buyer's perspective, I've also seen many items cycle over and over--even 'no reserve'--without any bids..but also without any reduction from one bid session to another--sometimes going 10x before (sometimes) just being taken off...no acknowledgement whatsoever of the economy. I'm...

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My guess--no older than late 80s or newer than mid 90s when Legacy (LSI) took over. Sent you a PM.

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Regarding the Rossi, you didn't say what country, but here in the US they're virtually everywhere. They're listed variously as Rossi, Rossi Puma, LSI Puma, Legacy Puma, Interarms (older ones), EMF, EMF Hartford,...all of the above combined with 92 or 1892 depending on manufacturer. LSI (Legacy) no l...

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Regarding confusion over the "Puma" name...though it's become to be thought as just about any Rossi 92, since the 90s it's technically just been a Legacy (LSI) term given their 92 ever since they took over being the largest importer of them when Interarms went away. It's a holdover from th...

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I'm in the same boat for several. They're around; keep looking. That said, after you I'll probably be asking on here too! If I run across spares, I'll give you a jingle. Hopefully you'll have found yours by then!

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Taking the OP literally at "one," I'd have to +1 on the self-defense (focus) including something you can carry (CC or open) as a practical component...my choice S&W 65 , more specifically pre lock Lady Smith = unique combo of low glare satin stainless, full lug, CC'able 3"/fixed s...

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To me, the 20" carbine is the best all around compromise. Look for an EMF 1892 -- though still a Rossi, they sport better sights (and often a little better wood) than the Legacy (LSI) Rossis and new Rossi/Taurus 92s. Better yet, if you can find one, get a pre-safety (to 2006) EMF or earlier Int...

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Regarding the 92, as far as I know they're basically the same as the Legacy (LSI) Rossis, including the cheap sights. Go on Gunbroker (or Gunsamerica--Philip (Joel) Rezak, great guy) and get a nicer Rossi from EMF (search EMF 1892)...especially better sights on the carbines. Like Legacy already has,...

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+1 SRC freak. Love the rings--about 90% (+) of the carbines were originally equipped that way. Just don't seem right without! Clack doesn't bother me or the ring wear either (adds character!). If it bothers you, tie a short leather strip on it. A lot more '94 "eastern carbines" were made t...

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The OP indeed did an excellent job. All I can say about the effort and results is "wow!"--I've got a few bits I'd like to send him! His excellence in bringing back a sickly patient from doom does not change the fact that--regardless of the referenced engineer's analysis--Winchester turned ...

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You'll love your Rossi. Steve Young (aka Nate Kiowa Jones) can help you do something about the fugly, ambiguous safety...either "just" plugging and/or replacing with one of the new peep sights he's been working on.

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NKJ is reviewing the same manufacturer's (Armi Sport/Chiappa) new 1886 effort with them. Maybe he can weigh in here and perhaps follow up with them on this as well if approppriate.

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A few more gems:

"Think you used enough dynamite there Butch?" Redford/BC&TSK

"They could surrender to us, but I wouldn't count on that." Redford/BC&TSK

"Your superiors huh? That doesn't narrow the field much, now does it?" Eastwood/The Eiger Sanction

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I'd say, more than anything, darken whatever wood you've got--whether existing or replacement stocks--and stay away from any final finish that suggests "satin polyurethane." I'm not a big glossy fan, and indeed was probably one of those that bugged the likes of Remington enough that they f...

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Good price/nice find. Now send off to NKJ to take care of the safety wart or DIY. I was lucky to get mine (same config but pre safety) from EMF. Great guns. You'll enjoy.

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I am no Marlin expert, but have noticed 1893 carbines had the "carbine butt" just like the 73/86/92/94 Winchester carbines. You might see if http://www.precisiongunstocks.com or such has something like that as as "cowboy" conversion for your modern Marlin--along with a slimmer fo...

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336 with premium bullets and 4x scope. Or maybe consider a hi-mount (see thru) scope to accommodate both open field and dense wood conditions--though that somewhat changes the balance and reduces the handiness of the lever gun which is its main calling card. +1 get closer to your quarry if need be f...

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If yours has its front sight located ON the barrel band rather than the barrel itself as later ones do, it is likely an Interarms (importer)-era Rossi and you're probably ok. Similarly, if it's one of the current batch you're probably ok too--the silly/ambiguous safety switch atop the receiver.notwi...

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Years ago I had a set of Pachmayrs that worked well..but then again, like the Hogue, don't know if the new lock mechanism is an issue with those.

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+1 to what NKJ (Steve Young) said re Chiappa/Armi Sport. Go to Legacy Sports (LSI) website--they show two; the long rifle and the saddle ring carbine (SRC). First replicas I've known of since the Brownings...pretty exciting, especially if they'll let NKJ preview them as he says. Nate, have they list...

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+1 on the Rossi. I have the Browning as well and have nothing but good (great) things to say about the B92, but 1) last I knew they didn't make 'em in 24 and 2) there's nothing wrong with a Rossi--especially at 1/3 to 1/2 the price and 10x the availability. Speaking of 24", are you sure you don...

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South-central Arizona "woods" (desert lowlands through chapparal highlands); If literally trailing, 3" Smith 65 loaded first chamber or two with snake shot 1/2 the year; the rest with "warmish" 158 grs. If sedentary camp, I might bring along the NV or Montado loaded with sam...

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I've wondered the same thing. I hope this isn't hijacking, but I've got a blemish on the buttstock of my '86 SRC, about the size of a small child's palm--a darkened area that almost looks like it had been burnt or heat applied (but no wrinkling or tactile sense that it's different--it's "in&quo...

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I'll be the odd one here and say that, on Winchester 94s that were designed with the hoods, I actually like them--and actually am looking for four of the Pre-64 types and two of the Post 64s (ca. 1979)--I've heard are subtly different--I've heard the terms "high" and "low"? (I fo...

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Prayers sent up for this fine man.

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+1++ for full mag tube all the time for all the reasons others have stated. If desiring fewer rounds, less weight under some circumstances, no reason you need to fully load...but you always know you can. A half mag tube, besides just not looking "right" to me, is like having a V8 with 4 cy...

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The rifles pictured do not look like they have tang safeties, so that's at least good. They need to get rid of the angle eject and make them EXACTLY like they were made in 1894 or no one will buy them. More original calibers need to be added as do variations like SRC's. The prices on "plain&qu...

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Rossi (now owned by Taurus), as of this past year and with their LSI relationship terminated (below), these can be found out there in abundance with the "Rossi" name on the box again. EMF--officially out of the Rossi business but site says may have some left-overs...I believe used to be on...

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I'm noticing, other than the first post, no one's bothered to address the OP's question--at least in terms of substantial differences. As far as I know, the aforementioned lifter/feed ramp, fit and finish (pre's having more labor/hand finishing supposedly) and metallurgy of the receiver - the posts ...

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Regarding the Jesse Stone series, there are getting to be a number of them and I've lost track. They're all showing up on the grocery store stands now for $9.99--any of them in particular worth a buy?

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