The Betty Lamp
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The Betty Lamp
These lamps dade back to the 1700 and are kinda cool, smokey but cool.
The first one hangs on the teeth of the part in the middle and as the oil got low you could tip it forward which would make the oil run to the front, a piece of animal fat would be paced in the pan and slowly melt from the heat.
The pan under the top pan was to catch the dripping from the wick, those where made by carving out a psttern in a oak block then hammering the metal into it.
The first one hangs on the teeth of the part in the middle and as the oil got low you could tip it forward which would make the oil run to the front, a piece of animal fat would be paced in the pan and slowly melt from the heat.
The pan under the top pan was to catch the dripping from the wick, those where made by carving out a psttern in a oak block then hammering the metal into it.
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nice.
i like the chickadee finial on the rear piece.
i like the chickadee finial on the rear piece.
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Nicely done.
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
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Would you adopt me? I need to learn some of these things. I'm just anachronistic enough to really appreciate them.
Joe
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Just got the plazzy a couple years ago, what a toolwecsoger wrote:Nicely done.
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
Pokey thanks bud.
Joe take a vaction and drive up this summer and we`ll make somethin.
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Pitchy wrote:Just got the plazzy a couple years ago, what a toolwecsoger wrote:Nicely done.
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
Pokey thanks bud.
Joe take a vaction and drive up this summer and we`ll make somethin.
Joe
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Heck you could make the wife one of those sleds she liked, heck your not that far away.J Miller wrote:Pitchy wrote:Just got the plazzy a couple years ago, what a toolwecsoger wrote:Nicely done.
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
Pokey thanks bud.
Joe take a vaction and drive up this summer and we`ll make somethin.
Joe
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Here`s another one, little more modern.
I changed the design on the lid to make it look more like a swan.
I changed the design on the lid to make it look more like a swan.
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Pretty COOL !!
The wife would kill me! All that soot on the ceiling don`t ya know?
The wife would kill me! All that soot on the ceiling don`t ya know?
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I will, but it would be two of us. If I tried to sneak out by myself I'd be in serious trouble ....Pitchy wrote:Heck you could make the wife one of those sleds she liked, heck your not that far away.J Miller wrote:Pitchy wrote:Just got the plazzy a couple years ago, what a toolwecsoger wrote:Nicely done.
You can talk about doing some of this work old school. But a plasma cutter rocks!
Pokey thanks bud.
Joe take a vaction and drive up this summer and we`ll make somethin.
Joe
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I like the second lamp.
My wife wants to know where you get the ideas to these things?
Joe
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Pitchy, is there no end to your talent???
You sure come up with some fascinating stuff..
You sure come up with some fascinating stuff..
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Thanks gents, just stuff i see on the web then i gotta make one. All the very old stuff intigues me, was well thought out and worked for more than a hour before ya have to send it back.
Well Joe we don`t have much and a old small house but we will find a place for ya somewhere, got a 31 foot class A motorhome ya can stay in, electric, water, fridge the whole works.
Well Joe we don`t have much and a old small house but we will find a place for ya somewhere, got a 31 foot class A motorhome ya can stay in, electric, water, fridge the whole works.
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85 winny.
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Glad to see the lamps. It's great that someone is keeping the old stuff alive. Way things are going those whale-blubber lamps might be the only night lights we have.
Have you ever made something like the Alaska native stone seal fat lamps? Same idea I think. Kind of look like alladin's lamp. ancient stuff that hearkens to hearth and home.
Thanks for posting.
Grizz
Have you ever made something like the Alaska native stone seal fat lamps? Same idea I think. Kind of look like alladin's lamp. ancient stuff that hearkens to hearth and home.
Thanks for posting.
Grizz
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No but am willing to try anything, got pics?Grizz wrote:Glad to see the lamps. It's great that someone is keeping the old stuff alive. Way things are going those whale-blubber lamps might be the only night lights we have.
Have you ever made something like the Alaska native stone seal fat lamps? Same idea I think. Kind of look like alladin's lamp. ancient stuff that hearkens to hearth and home.
Thanks for posting.
Grizz
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Pitchy wrote:Thanks gents, just stuff i see on the web then i gotta make one. All the very old stuff intigues me, was well thought out and worked for more than a hour before ya have to send it back.
Well Joe we don`t have much and a old small house but we will find a place for ya somewhere, got a 31 foot class A motorhome ya can stay in, electric, water, fridge the whole works.
On the serious side I'll get with the wife and see what we can do to arrange for a road trip. Finances being what they are we'll need to plan way ahead for any trip that lasts longer than over night.
Joe
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I here ya and why that MH is sittin where it is gas prices being what they are.J Miller wrote:Pitchy wrote:Thanks gents, just stuff i see on the web then i gotta make one. All the very old stuff intigues me, was well thought out and worked for more than a hour before ya have to send it back.
Well Joe we don`t have much and a old small house but we will find a place for ya somewhere, got a 31 foot class A motorhome ya can stay in, electric, water, fridge the whole works.
On the serious side I'll get with the wife and see what we can do to arrange for a road trip. Finances being what they are we'll need to plan way ahead for any trip that lasts longer than over night.
Joe
End of April or May while it`s cool yet would be a nice time if your in the travlin mood.
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Here's a cool lamp you can make to replace votives/emergency candles in those mini-hurricane lanterns.
It's a 1-1/4" copper pipe end cap with a piece of 3/8" copper tubing soldered into the cap.
(The small tube has 3 "V" notches cut/files into the base. Be careful not to fill the notches with solder.)
Take paper towel and roll it into as tight a cylinder as you can and stuff it down the tube, leaving about 2mm to the top of the tube.
Swage a bit of fine screen down on top of the paper towel.
Fill the cup 1/2-7/8 (don't let it flow over the center tube) with Olive Oil.
While the Paper towel is soaking up the oil, dip a cotton swab (REAL COTTON ONLY) in the olive oil and pull off the head.
Set the head on the screen and light with a match.
It produces a yellow flame that is fairly useful, but sooty smoke. Still, Olive Oil Lamps worked for millennia.
It's a 1-1/4" copper pipe end cap with a piece of 3/8" copper tubing soldered into the cap.
(The small tube has 3 "V" notches cut/files into the base. Be careful not to fill the notches with solder.)
Take paper towel and roll it into as tight a cylinder as you can and stuff it down the tube, leaving about 2mm to the top of the tube.
Swage a bit of fine screen down on top of the paper towel.
Fill the cup 1/2-7/8 (don't let it flow over the center tube) with Olive Oil.
While the Paper towel is soaking up the oil, dip a cotton swab (REAL COTTON ONLY) in the olive oil and pull off the head.
Set the head on the screen and light with a match.
It produces a yellow flame that is fairly useful, but sooty smoke. Still, Olive Oil Lamps worked for millennia.
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I`ll have to try that, why the cotton on top of the screen?
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fun and interesting subjects. I like it when someone shows how things were done. Found out Lard Oil, not rendered Lard burned white and bright. It was favored by Railroads for signal lights, lanterns as well was considered a good lubricant and cutting oil by some machinest and watch makers. Also a little trick with olive oil lamps is to dissolve some salt crystals in the olive oil to prevent smoking. Works pretty good. Great stuff keep it coming. ATB
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What i was wondering is why the screen then the cotton on top, i understand the cotton is the wick but why not just a wick from top to bottom. Also will lamp oil work.Pitchy wrote:I`ll have to try that, why the cotton on top of the screen?
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Because the cottonball is eventually consumed.
I suppose you could use a full length round cotton wick, but once it burned down to the top of the draw tube it would be a pita to pick out.
Basically you are trying to retain the wicking action as long as possible by not burning the actual wick, only the flame head.
I suppose you could use a full length round cotton wick, but once it burned down to the top of the draw tube it would be a pita to pick out.
Basically you are trying to retain the wicking action as long as possible by not burning the actual wick, only the flame head.
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Ok thanks heading to the shop
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Back from shop seeing i`m a terrible soldering i welded the tube to a tin base that just sits in the can. Used a tee shirt for the wick with the screen on top then a piece of cotton gauze on top.
Burning lamp oil.
Burning lamp oil.
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Uummm........I nominate Pitchy for "The Coolest Forum Member" Award. Just ask, and he goes out to the shop and whips it up! AMAZING! Dude, you're like a genie!
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I aim to please, naw got the idea from great members here but appreciate the kind words.Bogie35 wrote:Uummm........I nominate Pitchy for "The Coolest Forum Member" Award. Just ask, and he goes out to the shop and whips it up! AMAZING! Dude, you're like a genie!
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Made another from a pineapple can, little more light and some holes around the top too let a little light out.
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Very cool Pitchy.
The biggest reason for the copper cap size is to be able to use it as a Votive-size lamp, but practical is as practical does.
The biggest reason for the copper cap size is to be able to use it as a Votive-size lamp, but practical is as practical does.
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Forgive me but i don`t know what a Votive-size lamp is.Old Ironsights wrote:Very cool Pitchy.
The biggest reason for the copper cap size is to be able to use it as a Votive-size lamp, but practical is as practical does.
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A Votive is one of those little candles that either go in or are sold in aluminium or glass cups to be put in small hurricane lamps or other such things.
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I see thanks, these are the sit on the shelf models.
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Those are cool. May have to try my hand at some of those.
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