In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
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In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I placed a bid on a Ruger No.1 in .475 Linebaugh/.480 Ruger.......and won it.
They made these in a short handy version and I wanted one from when they first came out but I did not have the dinero. I still have a bunch of .480 components, brass and dies so I am set up to load for it.
Another project. But it is a levergun.
They made these in a short handy version and I wanted one from when they first came out but I did not have the dinero. I still have a bunch of .480 components, brass and dies so I am set up to load for it.
Another project. But it is a levergun.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
Congrats on that one. Worthwhile project. :)
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Re: In a moment of weakness
That will work out real well for you
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Re: In a moment of weakness
I like the .480 Ruger for 400 grain bullets. Plenty for wild pigs. Only critter I ever recovered a bullet out of was a 1200 pound water buffalo cape buffalo hybrid at that game ranch near Hondo.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
I've had a couple No.1's and really like them, but I have no idea where I was when Ruger did those since I missed them completely. Looking forward to the field reports.
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I have recovered three of the 325 grain bullets. They were XTP bullets and expanded well. The 400 grain went through a rib on one side and halfway through the rib on the other side of that hybrid buffalo. I recovered 2. I shot too high on the body. Very little expansion, but a heck of a lot of penetration. I only used 400 grain flat points on that hybrid.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
Sounds cool, looking forward to hearing how it shoots.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
It has arrived. Seems almost too light, reminds me of my .30-30 short gun. Nice trigger. The sights meet my eye when I throw it up so this is destined to be an iron sighted rifle. I think I have a reciever sight here for it somewhere.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
The seller also included a gallon ziplock bag with a bunch of empty cases. About half appear to be unfired and the rest appear to me lightly used. I certainly did not expect this and it is much appreciated.
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Interesting caliber, especially in the no. 1. You did great, Scott!
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Re: In a moment of weakness
At the Arkansas gathering earlier this year I shot a nifty little double that someone had converted to .480 Ruger. It was a stomper an very pleasant to shoot.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Jeff quinn had some great loads for the .480 in a rifle. i use his loads in my 480 rossi lever gun
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
That's a really great find Scott, congrats! Should be a lot of fun! -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Scott, I'll be interested in your comments on your No. 1's recoil with full-power loads. Also looking forward to chronograph data!
Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
nice one Scott. I started on a ruger 480 bolt action carbine project at one point but costs defeated me. A rossi 92 or ruger no.1 sure would have been nice to find.
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Re: In a moment of weakness
Great looking rifle and in a very useful cartridge . Good on Ya .Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:44 am It has arrived. Seems almost too light, reminds me of my .30-30 short gun. Nice trigger. The sights meet my eye when I throw it up so this is destined to be an iron sighted rifle. I think I have a reciever sight here for it somewhere.
Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I've always loved the Ruger No 1 and in a 480 Ruger it's awesome. I do believe that 480R is my favorite cartridge.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I'm more interested in the 475 Linebaugh myself and it will shoot both! Also, I think the 475 L might be more accurate in terms of bullet seating closer to the grooves if the chamber is cut for the 475 L. The 480 R will automatically have a longer jump to the grooves (the 475 L has a case length of 1.4 and COL of 1.77 and the 480 R 1.285 and 1.65)
You could always use the 475 L cases and use a powder that slows it down some. -Tutt
You could always use the 475 L cases and use a powder that slows it down some. -Tutt
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Am I reading this right. .012" is going to make all the difference accuracy wise .CowboyTutt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:54 pm I'm more interested in the 475 Linebaugh myself and it will shoot both! Also, I think the 475 L might be more accurate in terms of bullet seating closer to the grooves if the chamber is cut for the 475 L. The 480 R will automatically have a longer jump to the grooves (the 475 L has a case length of 1.4 and COL of 1.77 and the 480 R 1.285 and 1.65)
You could always use the 475 L cases and use a powder that slows it down some. -Tutt
Being a single shot could the bullet not be perfectly matched to the chamber?
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
The difference in COL is actually 0.12 of an inch, not 0.012. That's over a 10th of an inch. Common bullet jump to the grooves with a rifle cartridge is 0.030 to 0.050 typically. A tenth of an inch seems like a lot but maybe won't affect things so much, won't know until you try. I like to seat my bullets as close as what is feasible to the grooves depending on bullet material. Pure lead, you can seat into the grooves. Hard cast about 0.030, monolithics about 0.05 to start. Bore alignment matters. -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
We will see. I don't have a single .475 Linebaugh case or loaded round in my possession.
So, let's see what it does with .480 and work from there.
I did find the NECG receiver sight I was looking for.
So, let's see what it does with .480 and work from there.
I did find the NECG receiver sight I was looking for.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
NECG's makes very nice stuff for sure! Scott, it occurred to me that depending on the bullet being used, you might be able to seat it out longer even in the shorter 480 R case.
A Lee FCD could probably get you a good crimp wherever you place it. I have to do the same if I want to shoot my 454 Casull "long" cartridges in the extended action of my Rossi Puma. Just food for thought. -Tutt
A Lee FCD could probably get you a good crimp wherever you place it. I have to do the same if I want to shoot my 454 Casull "long" cartridges in the extended action of my Rossi Puma. Just food for thought. -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I have one Tutt wishes he had, Ruger compact .30, 2950 fps, 3x 5/8” 180 gr bullet
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Huh?Old Savage wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:26 pm I have one Tutt wishes he had, Ruger compact .30, 2950 fps, 3x 5/8” 180 gr bullet
Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Thanks.CowboyTutt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:04 pm The difference in COL is actually 0.12 of an inch, not 0.012. That's over a 10th of an inch. Common bullet jump to the grooves with a rifle cartridge is 0.030 to 0.050 typically. A tenth of an inch seems like a lot but maybe won't affect things so much, won't know until you try. I like to seat my bullets as close as what is feasible to the grooves depending on bullet material. Pure lead, you can seat into the grooves. Hard cast about 0.030, monolithics about 0.05 to start. Bore alignment matters. -Tutt
So it's a bit like shooting a 38special in a 357 chamber?
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Nath, exactly! The 480 R is sometimes even referred to as the 475 Special. The math used to confuse me too for a very long time. Never understood why they say "30 thousandths"? The zero on the end doesn't matter, so why not just call it 3 one hundredths? Baffled me for years.
OI, I think I have a 358 Win load that can match that, if not very close, with RL 26. Quick Load is my new BF. I still prefer heavier bullets though. -Tutt
OI, I think I have a 358 Win load that can match that, if not very close, with RL 26. Quick Load is my new BF. I still prefer heavier bullets though. -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I've got a box of shells and I just finished work for the day...
Might have to test this in the morning.
Might have to test this in the morning.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
First three rounds Hornady factory 325 gr XTP. I shot this from a field rest at 25 yards with factory iron sights.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Then I used the factory irons to guesstimate where to set the receiver sight. Three more rounds. Same conditions.
The first shot took out my precise aiming point which may explain the vertical pattern. Since most of my deer hunting involves shots at less than 50 yards, I would say that my initial impression is that the .480 ammo is accurate enough.
The first shot took out my precise aiming point which may explain the vertical pattern. Since most of my deer hunting involves shots at less than 50 yards, I would say that my initial impression is that the .480 ammo is accurate enough.
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Looking good.
It would be good to see how it prints at 100yds some day.
It would be good to see how it prints at 100yds some day.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Scott that should be a Hog Thumper for sure . Looking promising !Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:43 pm Then I used the factory irons to guesstimate where to set the receiver sight. Three more rounds. Same conditions.
The first shot took out my precise aiming point which may explain the vertical pattern. Since most of my deer hunting involves shots at less than 50 yards, I would say that my initial impression is that the .480 ammo is accurate enough.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Minute of deer at 100 at least, should be adequate for that purpose. Scott, are those bullets XTP's or XTP Mags? Just curious. I'm sure the rifle velocity is much higher than pistol. Does anyone with a 480 Puma have some velocity numbers with a 325 grain bullet by chance? -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
I'm sure that they are XTP mags as I think that is what Hornady loads for this cartridge.
Recoil is noticeable but certainly not anything to get flinchy about. Recoil seems to be straight back without noticeable rise in the muzzle.
It was awfully hot out there and I did not want to sweat too much on this pretty gun. I'll take it out to 100 yards next time.
Recoil is noticeable but certainly not anything to get flinchy about. Recoil seems to be straight back without noticeable rise in the muzzle.
It was awfully hot out there and I did not want to sweat too much on this pretty gun. I'll take it out to 100 yards next time.
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Had some time to look it up, your right, 325 XTP mag bullets. Your good to go. Nice that the recoil is straight back with little muzzle rise. Sounds like a very nice rifle for sure! -Tutt
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Personally, once the cartridges get beefier than the .44 mag the No. 1 seems more appropriate to me than any revolver. That's going to be the absolute Hammer of Thor under 100 yards...
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Re: In a moment of weakness .480 Ruger No. 1
Very cool!
I would think that would take care of just about anything running around Texas.
Nice rifle!
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I would think that would take care of just about anything running around Texas.
Nice rifle!
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