Now a FACTORY Ruger BLACKHAWK in 480 and 454...!

[AJMD429]

....only a Bisley grip is offered, which is the only one I'd want anyway...!

http://www.gundigest.com/guns/ruger-sup ... revolvers?

[yooper2]

I have the 480. The metal work is great but the grips were shoddy. I made a set out of a chunk of birdseye. Fun and accurate gun.


Eric

[Ysabel Kid]

Looks nice - just needs one more screw on the side-plate!

[AJMD429]

Looks nice - just needs one more screw on the side-plate!

You could probably get a gunsmith to drill and tap it for one...

...'er, I mean a "manufacturer" not a 'gunsmith'........viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66515

[Grizz]

NICE. I think the 480 has some interesting properties. Should be an outstanding meat maker.

Too late for me to switch calibers, but the young hearts could hook up to a life-long friend with that revolver.

Is this frame now the structural equivalent of the redhawk?

[AJMD429]

Video on Ruger site- http://ruger.com/products/newModelSuper ... odels.html

[Sixgun]

I've been shooting handguns with regularity since 1972 and the 44 mag is about the most I can handle
somewhat comfortably.

I guess it's a great thing Ruger has done with these hand cannon.....just not for me.----6

[piller]

I have a Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger. Handloading can be used to lower the power, much like lower power loads in the .44 Magnum, for range loads which give more time with targets while easing the punishment on the hand. IMR 4227 gives lower power loads in my pistol and faster loads in my Rossi M92. It gives me excellent accuracy. It is a heavier and wider bullet than the .44Magnum, and I am a fan.

[Grizz]

I shoot 405gr hard cast in my 44 redhawk. mv runs in the 950 fps range and it penetrates douglas fir like a 45/70. it's easy shooting, low recoil, with 100yd practical range and more punchola than 240gr hotshots.

Blaine shot it some. It's easier shooting than the 525gr was making abt 1300fps from his 45/70 bfr, which was still manageable.


I'd guess that the 480 can push a 425gr to 440gr bullet to 1050+ with less pressure and low recoil. that's just a wild guess.

there is no reason to jack up velocity with a heavy for caliber bullet. hv is for skinny lightweights mostly I guess.

[Streetstar]

I've been shooting handguns with regularity since 1972 and the 44 mag is about the most I can handle
somewhat comfortably.

I guess it's a great thing Ruger has done with these hand cannon.....just not for me.----6

I'm at 357 mag level myself --- I don't shoot enough to be able to handle the big battards

[JohndeFresno]

I think this is a good move by Ruger; especially with the .454. You can load it with any power level you want with the great .45 negotiator. Love those Ruger Single Actions.

[buckeyeshooter]

I would like a 454, but not in a bisley grip. If they ever make a plowhandle, I'll but one.

[Grizz]

I am such a poor communicator, sorry.

What I tried to convey is this: my 44 mag 5-1/2 inch redhawk with subsonic 405gr loads has less felt recoil than my 4 inch Model 66 S&W with full power 158gr .357 magnum loads. With better performance on deer.

Anyone who is comfortable shooting a .357 Magnum would be more comfortable shooting heavy subsonic bullets from a 44 mag, or 454, or 480, with improved whack power on the business end. When loaded this way the recoil from the heavier guns is much less obnoxious than folks assume.

Just sayin'. There is a whole entire world of hunting happiness waiting for folks who are willing to explore the subsonic heavy for caliber loads.

For all the times I've posted this info, only two shooters that I know of investigated. One was Bestlever, and another was a guy in MO who did an entire workup on the 405 load, customized for his redhawks. Forget his name. He got thru penetration of 13 water jugs at I believe 1050fps from the 5-1/2" barrels. Most cartridges from most firearms won't do this.

more coffee . . ,

[JohndeFresno]

...Anyone who is comfortable shooting a .357 Magnum would be more comfortable shooting heavy subsonic bullets from a 44 mag, or 454, or 480, with improved whack power on the business end. When loaded this way the recoil from the heavier guns is much less obnoxious than folks assume.

...only two shooters that I know of investigated. One was Bestlever, and another was a guy in MO who did an entire workup on the 405 load, customized for his redhawks. Forget his name. He got thru penetration of 13 water jugs at I believe 1050fps from the 5-1/2" barrels. Most cartridges from most firearms won't do this...

...I think there may have been more; like the one from California (me), whose .44's penetrated 7 jugs of water like this entry in that thread:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... 4&start=50

Specifically, like Load #0111 -
250 Keith cast bullet, BHN 11; Trail Boss (IMR) 6 gr., CCI 300 Primer
COAL 1.710 in. 646 fps
Penetration 54" water (equivalent to 36 inches in gelatin media)
Diameter: Virtually unchanged
Weight: Virtually unchanged

My favorite .44 Magnum shootin' load is:
A 240 gr. Magnus Keith type SWC Bevel Based Moly bullet (#701M, .430 cal., Brinnel 18-20)
9.0 gr. of Alliant Unique
CCI 300 Lg Pistol primers
Chronographed average of 1,078 fps in my 6.5 inch Taurus
(Chrono Low 1041.64; Hi 1114.63)
Chronographed at 1171 fps for a Ruger 10.5 in. Super Blackhawk; 100 fps faster.

This is a very pleasant but powerful load to shoot in the above described handguns; actually a bit of a pussycat in the magnaported, Taurus with its cleverly molded rubbery grips.

Softer lead bullets with a little less powder still give plenty of penetration. I wish I could say that I have taken a deer or some other game with one of these loads; but so far I have not had the chance.

[J Miller]

Those are nice looking revolvers.
I've never been fond of the Bisley style of grips and I've found those that I have shot to be less than comfortable.
But I'd be willing to shoot somebody elses for the fun of it.

I have shot the 454 from a S&W 460 and that was a fun experience. The fact it's a .45 might make me more interested cos I have lots of supplies that could be shared by my existing shooters.

But the 480 ... well, I'm curious about that one.

Joe

[Grizz]

JohndeFresno

Good report.

Did you jug test the second load?

My 1988 10.5" SBH load was 21.0gr 296 under a cast 320gr pb fp bullet.

The heavier the bullet, the better I found that it dealt with bone strikes.

Someone did chronograph them and I 'think' I remember he said they were under 1100 fps. That was my meat gun for years, and the only bullet I recovered went thru the skull and skated along the backbone, taking out several vertabrae. That bullet was not nearly as tough as Marshall Stanton's alloy, but it still did the job.


Every other shot was a pass thru, and it hammered the deer. It is every bit as good a deer gun as the Marlin 44 mag lever gun I gave my son. And of course, from the 10.5 inch barrel, not muzzle rise and mostly a straight push back into the palm.

[piller]

Cast performance makes some wide flat nose LBT style 425 grain bullets for the .480 which are accurate when pushed about 1,000 fps or a little less by IMR 4227. No jug tests. Back in the hog hunt in the mud a few years ago, that load from my Rossi M92 had a pass through on a 150 pound hog and the sound was bang WHAP flop. The pig was hit on its left shoulder and got barrel rolled 270 degrees. Its legs prevented it from going completely to 360 degrees. Large, wide, and sort of slow is effective on mid sized pigs in my limited experience.

[Grizz]

Cast performance makes some wide flat nose LBT style 425 grain bullets for the .480 which are accurate when pushed about 1,000 fps or a little less by IMR 4227. No jug tests. Back in the hog hunt in the mud a few years ago, that load from my Rossi M92 had a pass through on a 150 pound hog and the sound was bang WHAP flop. The pig was hit on its left shoulder and got barrel rolled 270 degrees. Its legs prevented it from going completely to 360 degrees. Large, wide, and sort of slow is effective on mid sized pigs in my limited experience.

That's what I expected from that caliber. As I said, too late for me but I think it's a tremendous hunter's gun, because I think you get that thousand feet at lower pressures than 44 mag.

thanks for the report. sounds like you can share that load between pistol and carbine. that's outstanding.

[JohndeFresno]

...
Did you jug test the second load? [snip]

You were referring to my regular load, I believe - 240 grainer .44 Mag at about 1000 fps.

Nope. I was at a range in the mountains, and didn't bring enough water jugs!