New or reformed 25-35 brass ?

[Bullard4075]

Close friend is looking for ,and not found 25-35 brass. Any experiences with reforming 30-30 brass?

[Lefty Dude]

Take it down in steps. I would first use a 7X30 Waters die, down to 7MM. Then take it done to 25-35. Case length trimming and inside neck reaming will also be required.
I have new Winchester 25-35 brass I use to make my Cowboy Screw Drivers. How ever I am running low or I would sell some. I have a back-order of 2000 at Graffs that is now over 18 Months old, and still waiting to be filled.
Winchester only runs this cartridge when they get enough Distributor back-orders for a special run.

You might try "Track of the Wolf", or "Buffalo Arms". I bought some from Roseburg Gun Shop, Roseburg, Oregon several years ago when I was desperate and almost out of stock.
A few Years back I had a Graffs back-order for 2000 30-40 Krag Winchester brass, it took 2 years to get the order.
Good luck on your quest.

[earlmck]

I don't have a 25/35 (yet) but I have been making 25 Remingtons out of 30 Rems without problems. Like Lefty Dude says, an intermediate step to 7mm helps ease the process: I use an old 7X57 die that I cut off to shorten up a bit for another project. With the 25 rifles I have I trim a bit but don't have to do any neck reaming: that part will depend on the chamber in your rifle.

[Merle]

I sure am glad I stocked up on the oddball stuff years ago, cause it is real tough to find it now.

[Richardx]

Lefty Dude,

"Cowboy Screw Drivers" excuse my ignorance, please, are CSD's those screwdrivers for your gun belt or is this a wildcat I have not heard of?

Thanks,
Richard X

[M. M. Wright]

Sounds like and adult beverage to me.

[Lefty Dude]

Lefty Dude,

"Cowboy Screw Drivers" excuse my ignorance, please, are CSD's those screwdrivers for your gun belt or is this a wildcat I have not heard of?

Thanks,
Richard X

For your Gun belt, used in CAS/SASS.
I also make one on a 45/70 case.

[457121]

Natchez and Brownells web sites both state that 25-35 brass has been dropped by the manufacturer. Not temporarily suspended production, but dropped. It's the only brass I saw that said that. I wonder if it's true? Also anyone who forms 219 Zipper brass from 30-30 can supply you with 25-35. It comes out of the second forming die as a 25-35. At least it does on my RCBS forming set.

[6pt-sika]

When I had a Marlin 1893 in 25-36 Marlin I was pretty lucky and picked up 100 new and 250 once fired 25-35 WIN . But I also at that time had a Marlin in 219 Zipper . For the Zipper I bought 200 pieces of formed brass of Ebay . There was a fellow in the Dakots I think that was selling it for about $25 a hundred and he used once fired brass !

[264 Win Mag]

Formed a couple just to see if I could. All I did was run 30-30 cases thru 7-08 Rem and 25-35 Win dies, then trim to length. Chambered and shot fine.

Thomas

[earlmck]

Formed a couple just to see if I could. All I did was run 30-30 cases thru 7-08 Rem and 25-35 Win dies, then trim to length. Chambered and shot fine.

Thomas

Sounds like you've got the recipe figured out, Thomas.

[264 Win Mag]

Luckily I have a decent stash of 25-35 Win brass but I was wanting to try my hand at cartridge conversion for my own personal knowledge. I have also played around with 30-30 Win to 375 Win conversions. It was even more entertaining loading it like a blank with Titegroup and grits and fireforming them! Excellent reference is: The Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversion.

Thomas

[Bullard4075]

Formed a couple just to see if I could. All I did was run 30-30 cases thru 7-08 Rem and 25-35 Win dies, then trim to length. Chambered and shot fine.

Thomas

I don't have a 7mm-08 die, maybe my 257 Roberts would do.

[earlmck]

I don't have a 7mm-08 die, maybe my 257 Roberts would do.

What you are needing, Bullard, is something kind of half-way between .30 and .25 to take the neck down a little more gradually. 7mm is just about perfect for that. Even the 7/08 is getting only about half the length of the neck squeezed down; I wouldn't have been sure that was enough but friend 264 Win Mag has showed us that it is. You can try going direct to 25/35 but I am guessing you'll loose a fair percentage of your brass if you don't have some intermediate step in there. If you were to pony up the bucks for a set of forming dies from RCBS I'd bet they would have a couple of intermediate steps. And charge you plenty for the pleasure.

The first round I tried making 25 Remington direct from 30 Remington crinkled the neck, but I don't think I've lost any since I went to the intermediate 7mm step. Though I haven't formed a whole bunch -- maybe about 30.

[Lefty Dude]

The 7mm Waters is the perfect intermediate die.

[Sixgun]

The specs on the 25-35, concerning the base......are different from the 30-30. If you have a tight chambered 25-35, 30-30 will go in and stop about a 1/4" from fully chambering. This is not from me reading....it's from experience.

The 25-35 and the 219 Zipper have the same base diameter. I have never been able to size 30-30 brass using the 219 Zipper FLS down far enough to work. I had to buy a $200 set of forming dies for the 219 Zipper.

On the other hand, I have been able to size 30-30 brass down to 25-35.......several times......and it fit. 7 times out of ten, I had to use 25-35 brass or use the intermediate 219 Zipper die in order for it it to work. This is not from fooling with one or two rifles, but a dozen.-------6