I looked at the Marlin 336W in 30-30 and was about to get that, but I would need to buy lots of ammo and accessories to fix her up like a guide gun !
I looked at my ammo locker and decided I have lots of 45-70 brass, lots of bullets and powder. I own two Marlin 45-70's, have them set up with scout scopes ;- ) I have a NEF single shot 45-70 ....... so why not another, I have all the dies and powder, bullets, etc, etc.
SOOOOOO ... today I put $ down on a Rossi Rio Grande in 45-70. I'm taking a gamble as I bought it sight unseen ;- ( but sometimes you take chances. I have read reports the Rio Grande rifles are coming in nice, so we will see, mine is a blued version. Not sure if I will use a Weaver 1-3x scope that I already have, or buy Skinner iron sights and have the custom peep sight block too ;- )
I have lots of 405 gr Remington bullets and will load those to about 1550 to 1650fps .... my question ?
I'm looking for a low mid range power load that does not dislocate my shoulder every time I pull the trigger ! I want more velocity than a Trapdoor, but only by a couple hundred or so fps.
At 1550-1650fps, how is the recoil in the Rio Grande ?
Thanks guys for your help.
wll
After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
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Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
Never shot a Rossi, but with my 1895 once I get past about 1450 fps with a 405 gr. bullet I start wishing I hadn't...
Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
Have my Marlin set up shooting 425gr Leadhead gas checks at ~1825fps+ and those are stout rounds. I was hoping a drop in 200fps using a little lighter bullet would make a difference, but maybe not ?Pisgah wrote:Never shot a Rossi, but with my 1895 once I get past about 1450 fps with a 405 gr. bullet I start wishing I hadn't...
wll
Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
I would say... "but if you already have three 45-70's, why do you need another one...???"
But that would be the pot calling the kettle black...
I keep thinking I'm gonna spend serious range-time comparing 'duplicates' I have, then selling off the ones that aren't the best performers of each group, but I'll be 90 years old before I ever get to that...!
But that would be the pot calling the kettle black...

I keep thinking I'm gonna spend serious range-time comparing 'duplicates' I have, then selling off the ones that aren't the best performers of each group, but I'll be 90 years old before I ever get to that...!
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Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
You're on the right track IMHO - I long ago abstained from shooting ANY boolit that weighed more then 300-350gr in any of my .45-70's ( to include Ruger #1 & #3 rifles, an H&R Buffalo Classic, a Winchester M86EL, and various Marlin 1895's, including an early/ported Guide Gun).wll wrote: Have my Marlin set up shooting 425gr Leadhead gas checks at ~1825fps+ and those are stout rounds.
I was hoping a drop in 200fps using a little lighter bullet would make a difference, but maybe not ?
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Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
I was about to order a Rio Grand in 45/70 two weeks ago but read some bad comments on various forums. I read enough that I did not order the rifle.
I sincerely hope that you have good success with yours and I look forward to your posting your experience and opinions once you have had a chance to evaluate the rifle.
Stan in SC
I sincerely hope that you have good success with yours and I look forward to your posting your experience and opinions once you have had a chance to evaluate the rifle.
Stan in SC
The more I listen,the more I hear....and vice versa.
45-70,it's almost a religion
45-70,it's almost a religion
Re: After much thought, I made my rifle decision ;- )
Well I can't say about the Rio Grande, but I can tell you that I just received my Rossi 92 and the fit and quality is on par with my two Marlin 1895's, my three 1894'2 and my 336.Stan in SC wrote:I was about to order a Rio Grand in 45/70 two weeks ago but read some bad comments on various forums. I read enough that I did not order the rifle.
I sincerely hope that you have good success with yours and I look forward to your posting your experience and opinions once you have had a chance to evaluate the rifle.
Stan in SC
My new Rossi 92 is very, very nice. I will be darkening the stock, but that is not big deal !
I am looking forward to my 45-70 Rio Grande, that I ordered today !
wll