CORRECTION: Wife Was Walking Dog...SHE Got Nailed By Rattler

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:26 pm

I totally mis-understood....His wife was the one that got bitten.....recovering, but really messed up bad...will be in ICU for a week.......I'm sure the good thoughts and prayers were understood....

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:29 pm

Done!

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:36 pm

Done.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:48 pm

Heal up pup. Hope yer master makes you a fancy collar out of that rattler.

harry · Post by **harry** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:48 pm

BlaineG wrote:So....if you can spare a prayer or two for Snapp's standard poodle, Cyian. It will be touch and go for about a day....

Had to look up what a Mojave Green was, sounds bad Blaine. Tell your buddy prayers up for him that his dog recovers.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:03 pm

I hope the dog recovers, sounds bad...

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:19 pm

Aye, prayers up.

model55 · Post by **model55** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:00 pm

You have it.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:09 pm

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:14 pm

Prayers up. Did he kill the snake?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:37 pm

jeepnik wrote:Prayers up. Did he kill the snake?

I don't know....I hope so....He lives on a golf course, and I guess they are inundated with them this year....Once, we were doing some damage to a bottle mescal, and a case of Michelob and thought it would be a good idea to go look for snakes about 1am

Lots of javelina around...I would think they would keep the snake population down ....

gak · Post by **gak** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:43 pm

Prayers done. Am very familiar with. Most dangerous no-legged in North America. A step beyond the western and eastern diamondbacks which are nasty enough.
Btw, where is this? Az or California?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:03 pm

gak wrote:Prayers done. Am very familiar with. Most dangerous no-legged in North America. A step beyond the western and eastern diamondbacks which are nasty enough.
Btw, where is this? Az or California?

Cornville, AZ.....Beautiful country...Just a little north of Mescalero's claim....

gak · Post by **gak** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:37 am

BlaineG wrote:
gak wrote:Prayers done. Am very familiar with. Most dangerous no-legged in North America. A step beyond the western and eastern diamondbacks which are nasty enough.
Btw, where is this? Az or California?
Cornville, AZ.....Beautiful country...Just a little north of Mescalero's claim....

Ninety minutes north of me as well. Diamondbacks predominate further down here in the Sonoran desert (including for most requests of snake removers in the suburban fringe of Phoenix, but we've definitely got pockets of Mohaves

I've reported here before a friend got nailed by one several years ago toward Yuma about about two hours southwest of Phoenix.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:38 am

Bad stuff.

Prayer up for the little guy.

papabear · Post by **papabear** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:58 am

PARAYS SENT

pwl44m · Post by **pwl44m** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:52 am

Hope He is doing better today. Prayers said.
Perry

Paul105 · Post by **Paul105** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:41 pm

Hope the the dog is ok.

A heads up for you guys that have dogs and live in rattlesnake country.

I've had my dogs vaccinated (and get the recommended annual booster) for rattlesnake bite. Even with the the vaccine, any snake bite should be considered a veterinary emergency.

I'm seldom in rattlesnake country, but consider this cheap insurance for when I am. (I think the shots are only $15 or so).

http://www.drugs.com/vet/crotalus-atrox-toxoid.html

Paul

lever- believer · Post by **lever- believer** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:27 pm

Prayers raised to Heaven and keep us informed of how things are going. Will let the Wife and kids know to pray as well. My Daughter is 8 years old and when she prays for something its so honest and heart tugging Im not sure how God could resist it.

Like I said keep us informed. There is a reason a dog is called Mans Best Friend. Strong bond we have with them.

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:05 pm

---prayers sent---

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:09 pm

Paul105 wrote:Hope the the dog is ok.

A heads up for you guys that have dogs and live in rattlesnake country.

I've had my dogs vaccinated (and get the recommended annual booster) for rattlesnake bite. Even with the the vaccine, any snake bite should be considered a veterinary emergency.

I'm seldom in rattlesnake country, but consider this cheap insurance for when I am. (I think the shots are only $15 or so).

http://www.drugs.com/vet/crotalus-atrox-toxoid.html

Paul

Unfortunately, the rattlesnake vaccine doesn't do a thing for the Mojave Green's venom. It's both a hemo toxin (which is what most rattlesnakes have and what the vaccine deals with) and a neuro toxin. Add to that the fact that the Greens have a generally bad disposition, and it's a lousy combination.

gak · Post by **gak** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:29 pm

...And snake training your dog (shock collar). I've heard there are still a few around that do that though it's been years. Had one of my springers done but we never ran across a rattler with him so fortunately never needed to test effectiveness (or maybe that meant successful!). I always seemed to run cross the no leggeds without him! Last one was helping a friend get with one for his beagle. The training was very effective - many times on the trail. Stayed off the snake as trained and just bayed like crazy!

gak · Post by **gak** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:50 pm

Couldn't edit my post off my mobile...but, speaking of dogs, I have none in this fight - just an example of training.
http://snake-avoidance.com/

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:56 pm

She was eating today.....Prolly need two more surgeries before letting her out of ICU...weeks of PT.....those dang mojave greens are a very serious injury....A weaker person would have died....

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:06 pm

Adjusted my prayers for the wife. Where you get bit can have an affect on how the venom affects the victim.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:16 pm

Griff wrote:Adjusted my prayers for the wife. Where you get bit can have an affect on how the venom affects the victim.

She's a really small person....4'10" maybe a buck soaking wet....lower leg...They had to split the leg open so it wouldn't blow up....I guess it looks like a inside out sausage...the next surgeries are to get everything sewn back into place....muscles might never be right.....

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:18 pm

I'll be good, and not make any "women vs. dogs" jokes, AND I'll send a prayer up for her as well.

(unsure of proper etiquette here - do I subtract the prayer for the pooch...?

)

Seriously - hope she recovers well and quickly. Hopefully 'ICU' is just to get a bit more round-the-clock nursing attention and not because she's doing poorly...

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:18 am

Praying for her.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:20 am

Yep, revising my prayers as well. I hope she recovers quickly, but as Blaine said, bites from a green are serious business. Now for sure I hope he killed the snake.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:18 am

Oh heck. Poor lady.
Best wishes friend.

N.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:30 am

30wcf wrote:---prayers sent---

+1

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:14 am

Prayers sent for the lady, I hope she heals well.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:28 am

Good thing the Holy Spirit intercedes with our Prayers and God knows the real prayers needed. None the less, my prayers go up for her and the family. Blessings

PaperPatch · Post by **PaperPatch** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:43 am

A Prayer offered on her behalf. Please keep us posted.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:54 am

Prayer up

That must have been one awkward phone call....... "How's my dog??"

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:01 am

rjohns94 wrote:Good thing the Holy Spirit intercedes with our Prayers and God knows the real prayers needed. None the less, my prayers go up for her and the family. Blessings

same same

wm · Post by wm » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:16 am

Really sorry to hear that.....I hope she fully recovers quickly.

Wm

Malamute · Post by **Malamute** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:55 am

Dang, sorry to hear it. Prayers for her recovery.

I've been in that area quite a lot in years past (inlcuding sleeping on the ground a lot), I didnt realize the snakes there were Mojaves, I thought they were ordinary diamondbacks. I don't know how many I killed years ago, but I certainly had, and have, no regrets for doing so.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:21 pm

Prayers up!

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:36 pm

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:47 pm

No doubt in my mind He knew what you guys were talking about....He knows I'm about half deaf, mostly don't pay good attention to stuff....

gak · Post by **gak** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:52 pm

Prayers adjusted and re-sent for her.

I love animals and the animal world in all (most of) its diversity and understand roles, but I wouldn't shed tears over a well executed Mohave (and D-back for that matter) eradication program, "replacing" with more Bulls and Cal Kings. I know that'd still mess up mother nature's balance somewhere,...but just saying. The purist herpetologists and eco-biologists out there will say you've got to take the bad with the good, and I get that with many critters, but I truly have no use for the fanged ones. They seem like a sort of mistake - along with the likes of the Komodo, etc, unintended residual from the dinosaur ages.

gak · Post by **gak** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:46 pm

Malamute wrote:
I've been in that area quite a lot in years past (inlcuding sleeping on the ground a lot), I didnt realize the snakes there were Mojaves, I thought they were ordinary diamondbacks. I don't know how many I killed years ago, but I certainly had, and have, no regrets for doing so.

I used to think the same about some of our Sonoran desert areas too (as being "safe" from the Mohaves, and being "just" diamondback territory--faint praise or hope there?) but have discovered most any part of the western half of the state south of the Grand Canyon is susceptible, with the highest concentrations being in Mohave, La Paz, Yuma, Yavapai and western Maricopa counties. I've heard of some to the east in Pinal County--where I really thought was mostly Diamondback territory. Disconcerting, we've got some in Scottsdale (northeast-central Maricopa County) dug in on the mountain slopes, according to a You Tube video. I've just seen the D-backs here close in on the east side of Phoenix. Brrr to both types!!

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:17 am

Any updates?

rimrock · Post by **rimrock** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:11 pm

Prayers for the lady and her family. Y have to say, I.ll give most any snake free passage unless it crosses that imaginary line of being too close then it gets about 120 grains of #11 shot. Questions are rehashed in my mind later.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:36 pm

Tycer wrote:Any updates?

Out of ICU, awaiting surgery to close the wound they made to relieve the pressure. Awake and feeling better.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:45 pm

BlaineG wrote:
Tycer wrote:Any updates?
Out of ICU, awaiting surgery to close the wound they made to relieve the pressure. Awake and feeling better.

Outstanding! Prayers still going up. Tough deal.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:09 pm

Prayers offered...

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:53 pm

I sent some flowers today....she personally responded with a txt message...

J35 · Post by **J35** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:22 pm

Glad she is on the mend.

My older brother got bit by a Mojave just outside Kingman, he spent a week in a hospital in Vegas, he was back to framing houses ten days later.

My best friend in High school got bit in the ankle by a Diamondback in 9th grade, he never recovered completely, he graduated in a cast on crutches.

----J