Sort of OT - Native American 101? (New question)
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Sort of OT - Native American 101? (New question)
As happens fairly often, I have an urge to dig deeper into a subject I'm familiar with but don't have a lot of knowledge about, if that makes sense.
Today's subject is Native Americans.
Right now I'm most interested in the Plains Indians and the tribes in the Southwest during and after the Civil War. Outside of what I was taught in school (and barely remember) from the late 70s through the 80s and what's been covered in some documentaries, movies, etc I haven't done any real reading about them.
I'm looking for website and book recommendations, preferably websites to begin with.
Thanks!
Today's subject is Native Americans.
Right now I'm most interested in the Plains Indians and the tribes in the Southwest during and after the Civil War. Outside of what I was taught in school (and barely remember) from the late 70s through the 80s and what's been covered in some documentaries, movies, etc I haven't done any real reading about them.
I'm looking for website and book recommendations, preferably websites to begin with.
Thanks!
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This running with the Joneses boy
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
You can google the various tribes/nations. E.g...
http://www.comanchenation.com/
http://www.comanchenation.com/history/index.html
http://www.comanchenation.com/
http://www.comanchenation.com/history/index.html
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Thanks, I'll hit the links when I get home.
The only reason I'm asking for recommendations on websites instead of just googling them is that old internet song and dance "I read it on the internet so it MUST be true". We all know that isn't the case...
The only reason I'm asking for recommendations on websites instead of just googling them is that old internet song and dance "I read it on the internet so it MUST be true". We all know that isn't the case...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
I've lost the link but this may is very interesting
Chronicles of Oklahoma
Volume 17, No. 3
September, 1939
THE CIVIL WAR IN THE INDIAN TERRITORY
1861
By Dean Trickett
Chronicles of Oklahoma
Volume 17, No. 3
September, 1939
THE CIVIL WAR IN THE INDIAN TERRITORY
1861
By Dean Trickett
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Don't know about the internet, but if you can find a copy of Mystic Warriors of the Plains it's a very fine work on the Plains Indians.
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
You might find of interest the book "One Vast Winter Count - The Native American West Before Lewis and Clark" by Colin G. Calloway. It ends about the time you said you wanted to begin, but the background it provides is interesting.
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Tohono O'odham Nation just outside Tucson, 2nd largest reservation in the U.S.:
http://www.tonation-nsn.gov/
Arizona Native Americans:
http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/az/azmap.html
And of course there are Native Americans from Mexico to the tip of Argentina and all over Canada as well.
Lastly (as far as what feeble info I can offer), when I was on Grenada I learned that the indigenous tribe, the Carib people, were wiped out by Europeans everywhere but a few spots on Dominica and their language has been lost.
Cheers,
Oly
http://www.tonation-nsn.gov/
Arizona Native Americans:
http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/az/azmap.html
And of course there are Native Americans from Mexico to the tip of Argentina and all over Canada as well.
Lastly (as far as what feeble info I can offer), when I was on Grenada I learned that the indigenous tribe, the Carib people, were wiped out by Europeans everywhere but a few spots on Dominica and their language has been lost.
Cheers,
Oly
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Excellent book, more than you ever thought you wanted to know about the Plains Indians, and for a lot less than I paid for it 30 years ago. http://www.amazon.com/Mystic-Warriors-P ... 156924538X Title is "The Mystic Warriors of the Plains". Well worth the price and lots of wonderful pictures by all the well known painters working in the West during the Fur Trade period.
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Here's the link: http://digital.library.okstate.edu/chro ... 7p315.htmlbrokenhand wrote:I've lost the link but this may is very interesting
Chronicles of Oklahoma
Volume 17, No. 3
September, 1939
THE CIVIL WAR IN THE INDIAN TERRITORY
1861
By Dean Trickett
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Here's my favorite book on the battle for the Great Plains: http://www.amazon.com/Scalp-Dance-India ... 0811729079
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Thanks for locating the links for me
Jim
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Thanks for the book suggestions! They'll go on my birthday/Christmas list (they're 10 days apart ) even though this bug may have passed by then.
The last time I really got this kind of urge to expand my historical knowledge was 10-12 years ago. I wound up getting into the Napoleonic Wars, primarily the Peninsular War. I think I have almost all of the books in the Sharpe's Rifles series and enough reference books to fill a couple of "regular" bookshelves. Especially if you include the later actions the British Army was involved with up to WWI.
Half Price Books can be a bad influence...
The last time I really got this kind of urge to expand my historical knowledge was 10-12 years ago. I wound up getting into the Napoleonic Wars, primarily the Peninsular War. I think I have almost all of the books in the Sharpe's Rifles series and enough reference books to fill a couple of "regular" bookshelves. Especially if you include the later actions the British Army was involved with up to WWI.
Half Price Books can be a bad influence...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101?
Geared for kids? Have you been discussing my intelligence and attention span with my wife?BlaineG wrote:http://www.native-languages.org/kids.htm
Actually, that's a pretty good one so far.
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
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Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101? (New question)
Are the Time-Life Old West books pretty reliable?
I culled about 2 boxes of books out of the "library" (how many different variations of Great Battles of WWII or Aircraft of the World books do I REALLY need? Most were bought on closeout at B&N or B-A-M anyway) and I'll be taking them to Half Price Books. They usually have individual T-L books as well as complete sets for decent prices. If the T-L books are worth a hoot I'll look for them in addition to the suggestions already posted (never know what I'm going to find ).
I culled about 2 boxes of books out of the "library" (how many different variations of Great Battles of WWII or Aircraft of the World books do I REALLY need? Most were bought on closeout at B&N or B-A-M anyway) and I'll be taking them to Half Price Books. They usually have individual T-L books as well as complete sets for decent prices. If the T-L books are worth a hoot I'll look for them in addition to the suggestions already posted (never know what I'm going to find ).
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
Re: Sort of OT - Native American 101? (New question)
Yeh there's some decent basic information in those.
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Comanches: the Destruction of a People by T. R. Fehrenbach
A real good read.
A real good read.
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The Journey of Crazy Horse by Joseph M. Marshall III. I have it as an audio book read by the author. Powerful
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