Win 94 Scout rifle?
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Win 94 Scout rifle?
Gonna turn my Win 94 into a scout rifle, using XS lever scout mount. Is a Leupold 2X EER scope adiquit(sp?)? Is a 30/30 good enough for use as a scout rifle?
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
What he said.TedH wrote:Yes, and yes.
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
I had to shim my scope to get it to hit where I was aiming. I haven't shot any game with it yet. But it comes to point real well.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
MAYBE and Yes.
It's a "maybe" on an EER scope, because YOUR personal ergonomics (physical fit to the rifle/scope combo) may or may not work with a particular scope's eye relief / "window".
The relationships will change, with different rifles (different receiver lengths), different scopes (different specifications), and different shooters (different physical characteristics)
An improper relationship, or marriage of the above, will return a less than satisfactory shooting result.
Leupold specifies that the optimal sight picture is with it's Extended Eye Relief of 18" - and in my experience, any distance more or less from the eye will result in less than a full sight picture - almost fully blacked-out in some instances.
Other handgun scope makers offer scopes with optimal eye relief "windows", say 9" to 17", or 11" to 21", etc, etc.
Anyone contemplating the use of a pistol scope in the scout position would be well advised to do a little homework first - instead of buying/trying/selling 3 or 4 scopes before finging out exactly what is suitable for their own situation.
I would advise you to hold the rifle in firing position, with a dummy of the XS LeverScout mount (the gold standard BTW) in position, and have a companion measure the distance from your eye to where the rear lens of the scope (in the scout postion) would be mounted. YMMV from anybody else's.
The measurement may be 9", 11", 13" - whatever, depending upon how YOU hold the rifle, YOUR neck length, and YOUR fullness of face.
Use whatever the measurement turns out to be, for comparison with a prospective scope technical specifications for eye relief - and let that be your guide for a scope purchase.
FYI - I did it the hard way, buying/trying/etc a Burris Scout scope, a Leupold Scout scope, and a Weaver 2-7x28 pistol scope, before finalizing on a Weaver 2x28 Pistol scope that fits ME & the particular rifle it's on (a Marlin 1894).
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It's a "maybe" on an EER scope, because YOUR personal ergonomics (physical fit to the rifle/scope combo) may or may not work with a particular scope's eye relief / "window".
The relationships will change, with different rifles (different receiver lengths), different scopes (different specifications), and different shooters (different physical characteristics)
An improper relationship, or marriage of the above, will return a less than satisfactory shooting result.
Leupold specifies that the optimal sight picture is with it's Extended Eye Relief of 18" - and in my experience, any distance more or less from the eye will result in less than a full sight picture - almost fully blacked-out in some instances.
Other handgun scope makers offer scopes with optimal eye relief "windows", say 9" to 17", or 11" to 21", etc, etc.
Anyone contemplating the use of a pistol scope in the scout position would be well advised to do a little homework first - instead of buying/trying/selling 3 or 4 scopes before finging out exactly what is suitable for their own situation.
I would advise you to hold the rifle in firing position, with a dummy of the XS LeverScout mount (the gold standard BTW) in position, and have a companion measure the distance from your eye to where the rear lens of the scope (in the scout postion) would be mounted. YMMV from anybody else's.
The measurement may be 9", 11", 13" - whatever, depending upon how YOU hold the rifle, YOUR neck length, and YOUR fullness of face.
Use whatever the measurement turns out to be, for comparison with a prospective scope technical specifications for eye relief - and let that be your guide for a scope purchase.
FYI - I did it the hard way, buying/trying/etc a Burris Scout scope, a Leupold Scout scope, and a Weaver 2-7x28 pistol scope, before finalizing on a Weaver 2x28 Pistol scope that fits ME & the particular rifle it's on (a Marlin 1894).
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
Kinda like this?
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
Yep, I mis-read. It should be the leupold Scout Scope IER.
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Tycer
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
Tycer wrote:Yep, I mis-read. It should be the leupold Scout Scope IER.
Thanks, Tycer. IF the EER 2X pistol scope don't work (I've already got one of these), I will end up getting the Scout Scope IER.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
what he said, he said.Tycer wrote:What he said.TedH wrote:Yes, and yes.
careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
pokey wrote:what he said, he said.Tycer wrote:What he said.TedH wrote:Yes, and yes.
Good one, pokey!
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
FWiedner wrote:Kinda like this?
Yup, just like that. What scope is that? BTW, I've got a Williams Fool Proof on mine.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
That's a Burris 2.75x Scout.1894cfan wrote:Yup, just like that. What scope is that? BTW, I've got a Williams Fool Proof on mine.
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
FWiedner, that is one neat carbine.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
Idiot wrote:FWiedner, that is one neat carbine.
+1
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
This is the Weaver 2x28 Classic pistol scope, that I ened up with, using the XS LeverScout mount, on MY '94 (Marlin )
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
Pete44ru,
Can we get some details on the knive?
Can we get some details on the knive?
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
As I mentioned already, I've got a 2X EER scope in hand, so might see if it works with the XS Scout mount, and since I have the Leupold Scout Scope on (back)order from Midway, I just might turn my 1894c into a Scout Rifle also.
Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
The rib tickler's a COLD STEEL coffin-handled Laredo Bowie.
$165: http://www.knivesplus.com/coldsteelknifecs-39llb.html
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$165: http://www.knivesplus.com/coldsteelknifecs-39llb.html
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Re: Win 94 Scout rifle?
COOL,
I have the Carbon V Trail Master.
I have the Carbon V Trail Master.