Help!! Broken Winchester 94 firing pin-update

[Borregos]

Had a bit of spare time this afternoon so I decided to strip down one of my pre 64 Winchester 94 30-30's that was giving me a bit of trouble in the summer. I suspected a broken firing pin and that is what I found



Where would be a good place to get a new one, need a few options as some places do not ship to Canada.
Thanks.

[J Miller]

Pete,

I have three suggestions:
Numrich = http://www.gunpartscorp.com/
Winchester Bobs = http://winchesterbob.com/
Brownells = http://www.brownells.com/

That's only the second broken pre-64 firing pin I've ever seen. I hate it when that happens.

Joe

[Borregos]

Thank you Joe, will try calling them tomorrow.

[Tycer]

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[Sixgun]

Thats amazing! How did you find the broken tip?

In shooting tens of thousands of rounds from Winchesters and Marlins from the 1870's on, I have never broken a firing pin.

Buckinghams in Tenn. has 'em.----------Sixgun

[J Miller]

Tycer,

The pre-64 and current firing pins are not the same. Nor are they interchangeable.

Here is a pictorial manage that will show that:


Joe

[KCSO]

Here is my fix for that problem. Chuck the old pin in the lathe and center drill to start and then finish the hole with the right size drill bit, I am thinking 5/64 right off the top but I don't have my notes here. Then silver solder or Hi Force 44 solder in a piece of old drill bit, face off for length and then carefully round the tip. This repair is good for 30 years so far! It also keeps the gun as original as possible. Takes about 1 hour and you are back in the field. If you don't have a lathe any achine shop can get you started and I'll bet the cost is under the price of a Pre 64 pin, If you can find one.

[salvo]

Borregos, I sent you a PM about a parts guy I know in Canada.

[Malamute]

I broke one once. When I took it to the gunsmith, first thing he said was "been dry firing it, haven't you?"


I quit dry firing 94's. Even an empty doesnt last for more than a few hits before it's useless. A snap cap or home made snap cap is worthwhile.


I think the ones I've bought for spares have been about $15. They are available for pre 64's. Making them isnt rocket science.

[Win94]

These folks in Edmonton have always had the parts i have needed when things go awry.

http://www.westerngunparts.com/

[Tycer]

Thanks Joe.

[Borregos]

Many thanks guys, got lots of options now.

[Borregos]

After some phone calls and emails I remembered Wisners out in Oregon who some time ago supplied me with a firing pin for my Marlin 1889, so I gave them a call and one is on the way for my Winchester 94

Many thanks for all your help though

Sixgun, the tip was still in place, it was held there as it broke just where the diameter increases on its conical shape, lucky I guess

[J Miller]

Pete,

You should have ordered two. Here's why .....

If you have a spare part, the one in the gun will never break.

Trust me on this. I have spare firing pins for every Winchester 94 I own, and I've never had a firing pin break.

J e

[Nath]

That makes perfect sense Joe, like reverse phycology to murpheys law!

I never dry fire, no Sir and never had a pin break!

Nath.

[Buck Elliott]

Here is my fix for that problem. Chuck the old pin in the lathe and center drill to start and then finish the hole with the right size drill bit, I am thinking 5/64 right off the top but I don't have my notes here. Then silver solder or Hi Force 44 solder in a piece of old drill bit, face off for length and then carefully round the tip. This repair is good for 30 years so far! It also keeps the gun as original as possible. Takes about 1 hour and you are back in the field. If you don't have a lathe any achine shop can get you started and I'll bet the cost is under the price of a Pre 64 pin, If you can find one.

Just recently had to replace a 'fixed' pin in a '92 Winchester .25/20. The 'pin' part of the equation had bent under use, probably from being softened in the 'repair' process.

[KCSO]

That's why you use drill stock and not an old nail!

[farmer44mag]

so are the firing pins on the 94AE's better or weaker??? Occasionally i end up dry fireing at the end of a rapid fire shot string if i miss count the rounds.

[J Miller]

so are the firing pins on the 94AE's better or weaker??? Occasionally i end up dry fireing at the end of a rapid fire shot string if i miss count the rounds.

Well, I'll say they are not better, and beings there isn't much metal there they probably are weaker.

My theory is that because of the lighter impact of the rebounding hammer action they went to the lighter firing pin because it didn't take near as hard of a hit to move it.

I do know that my Win 94AE Trapper still has it's original skeletonized firing pin with over 3K rounds fired. And the rebounding action went away long long ago.

Joe

[Borregos]

Hey Joe, if it ever happens again I will do what you suggested and order two so it never happens!!