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I can't wing shoot worth a hoot but the fella instructing me could. Surprised what the little 410 can do busting clays.
Also introduced to a heavy load of 3/4 of shot, which is pretty much a 20ga payload. It was no.5 birdshot and based on what it did to some pine boards apart from good pest defence I would rate it as a self defence option. Jeepers that little shot column is acting like a big blob still at 15ft.
I'd put recoil about half a 12 gauge field load as it's less powder and a little slower, apart from being lighter.
Maybe everyone already knew all this . I've had 410s before but always saw them as a small pest gun.
Mick I used to use Remington 3" #5 in my High Standard SKEET gun for jump shooting ducks on a buddies pond. Of course that was before the non toxic laws regarding shot . With these new tungsten loads I would try them on ducks.
The biggest issue with a 410 in my opinion is most are choked too tightly. If it's a long full choke they aren't too bad but if a short choke, think tubes, then they tend to blow patterns all to heck.
You are right about payloads being equal. 28 ga are mostly 3/4 or 7/8 oz. I shoot International Trap and the required load is 24grams of shot, about 13/16oz to break targets that must make 76 meters distance to be a legal target, speeds of targets are 60 to 80 or more mph!
I shoot 3/4 reloads in my 20ga Parker for pheasants and chukar, they are just as dead when I hunt my 28 or 410.
The 410 is NOT an experts gun as many say but it does make you a bit more concentrated when shooting!
Bill in Oregon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:49 am
Mick the .410 gets little of the respect it deserves. And I can't believe what the guys shooting Federal tungsten loads can do to turkeys at 40 yards!
I've been given grief over my "Perfect Jeep Gun" because it's a .410 Mossberg 500. Not the Mossberg but the caliber (yea, that's right caliber). But I figure it's a great improvement on my previous Jeep gun, an AR-7. No problems with the AR-7, but it seemed a bit "light" for two legged critters I encountered.
The Perfect Jeep Gun.
Hey, if some chicken scratcher can invent the Perfect Packin Pistol, with decades of Jeepin and shootin I can invent the Perfect Jeep Gun.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
Here is the very first bird I shot with my CZ410. This was the first time I ever shot the gun as well. The Blue rooster is had mounted, it's kind of special.
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Here Parker got around on a wily rooster flushing it to me and the CZ almost shot his head off.
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. I've had 410s before but always saw them as a small pest gun.
