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That sure looks like a factory crimp and it looks like a new case. But I have several of the little Winchester "Ball Powder Loading Data" booklets and they show 36 grains of WW 748 with the 87 grain bullet as their suggested load, which I would have guessed would be balparkish of what they...

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Our group is still shooting twice a month. I'm headed out tomorrow with the Ruger GP100, Rossi 357 (both of those will be shooting the same load of H108 pushing the 135 grain Ranch Dog style bullet) and will also shoot the Rem 14 1/2 38/40 which has been neglected for the last couple of years. I kee...

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Yes, what Paul said about the pictures. And the Leverguns site doesn't allow high resolution pictures; When I keep mine at or under 900 pixels in width I seem to no longer get them rejected. And a big "Welcome!" to a fellow bringing a very interesting levergun to the camp fire.

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QuickLoad does indeed show the 22 mag -"experiment" for estimations. Poking in Speer's 46 grain projectile and 3.4 grains Power Pistol shows 21k psi and 1730 fps (20" bbl) with Pmax for the cartridge shown as 27.5k psi. So that looks quite plausible. 5 grains of 2400 QL shows as also ...

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. Hey, at least it's a "pistol cartridge" levergun.... 8) Yeah, I think I usually call them "pistol cartridge" when posting here but all our group's literature refers to them as "pistol caliber" and I fall into it without thinking. I think that's what the NRA originall...

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Nice going man. It's fun to just shoot, but it's also fun to place, ain't it. I miss our Lever Action Silly wet. I still have my match rifle but haven't shot it since the range closed. Yes, this is a fantastic facility. 1100 members so you'd think it would be a busy place, but when I go out during ...

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My local range (the COSSA range east of Bend, Oregon) has a bunch of members and a variety of different shoots but there are no Cowboy Silhouette shoots. My group (the Pine Mountain Riflemen Buffalo Shooters) shoots some leverguns at some silhouetted targets but these are all clanger type targets an...

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I also have used TrailBoss for accurate low power loads with jacketed bullets, but have not done so in .223 as I don't imagine it would cycle the action in my AR. I asked QuickLoad about your 62 grain bullet and it thinks 7.5 grains of it would get you about 1750 fps and 30k psi at 100% fill (2.26&q...

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Here in my state of Oregon the Health Authority quit handing out press releases touting the vaccines but their web site is still giving out statistics showing the vaccines give some protection from catching Covid and quite a lot of protection from getting a serious case. But I read that the British ...

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Fun! Did the 92 shoot your loads constantly? The gun was shooting fine but at the start I hadn't yet got sight settings for anything but the 50 yard. I wanted to shoot the new baby and so loaned my 25/20 to friend Butch and he took second place which was a good result. By the end of the match I had...

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Earl you did some fine shooting there, pard! I miss that range and I miss having a hamburger with you at the Tastee Treet. Good memories. 8) Question: Which model Trapdoor are you shooting, and if it is an 1884 with the Buffington sights, have you taken any special measures to be able to see them? ...

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I spent last weekend shooting buffalo at our local gun range (the steel kind of buffs that you don't have to gut and skin, and where even a hit on the horn counts). We do a "shoot whatever you brung" thing on Thursday for just sighting in and general playing around and then on Friday we sh...

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Thanks for the heads-up Tutt. Got my copy on the way.

Just back from my first buffalo shoot of the year. Kinda' pitiful at the 1000 yard buff: maybe could use some help!

Although I suspect "over-experienced eyeball" syndrome.

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It was my understanding that the black powder loading didn’t really crimp to keep the bullet from setting back because it was sitting on the powder. Sure Tycer I'll bet you're right: that's just how it would be loaded with black powder. Those old boys would have only needed to crimp stuff that migh...

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That's perzactly the bullet I usually load in 32/20. It works fine crimped in the crimp groove when shot in the Savage 23 bolt gun I got from jdad a few years ago, but when loaded for the Browning I used to own I had to load it much shorter. The Browning was throated just like your Marlin. Just last...

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I have been one of those who whimpered about the poor accuracy of 180 grain bullets in a Rossi levergun. I have a very nice 180 grain LBT mould which throws 2 gas-check and 2 plain-base bullets that has produced thousands of bullets for my Ruger GP100 (mostly using the plain based ones) and I was lo...

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This could get interesting: nice find on that article Doc; I'd not before read that shorts and longs are .222 and long rifles .223. I don't have any longs in my stash, but the few shorts I have do indeed mike .222 and all my long rifles of several brands mike at least .223 with some Aquila going .22...

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Interesting question Mike. I don't have any real life experience with this but... my rather elderly version of QuickLoad has 22 Long Rifle in its program for "experimental" purposes, showing a maximum pressure allowable of just under 30k psi. I played with this a little bit -- 1.3 grains o...

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That one doesn't have any stories to tell. But it wasn't going to tell them to you anyway.

Nice find!

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You probably think Earl must have a very sophisticated formula for coming up with this "ladder" of loads with all those decimal pointed loads. Well there may be a bunch of decimal points in the powder grains, but there were only nice big fat even numbers on the Redding powder measure I use...

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Well this didn't happen very fast but I finally got some range time with loads from that bullet-making event. Here's a pic of the rifle I'll use in the Levergun Buffalo Shoot in a couple of weeks Marlin35Rem0144.jpg And the loads I was trying out (these are several different levels using 5744 and th...

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I've been finding "range lead" which is lead salvaged from shooting ranges for sale. Stuff has been running about 8 to 10 on the BHN scale which is pretty soft and would be just fine for your low-velocity loads. Heck, pure lead would work fine at those levels but if you have it buy it the ...

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I believe there are a fair sprinkling of levergunners who are also members of that Tonkin Gulf yacht club. My yacht was the Bon Homme, CVA 31.

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Sure is good to see our military folks treated nicely; feels so much better this way. We surely know how quick that can turn. I was lucky and never had bad experiences with vet organizations -- didn't realize it was happening I guess. GI Bill put me through college and Oregon Vet dept gave me a low-...

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I'm right in the middle of my lucky age -- double 7. I'm glad to be in with a bunch of young folks on the forum here: I get a leetle nervous hanging around my buffalo shootin' group where I'm one of the young guys.

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Yikes! That looks nasty.

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I think you are the victim of some Google disinformation. I just typed in "the gateway p..." and Gateway Pundit 's homepage popped right up no problem. My Duckduckgo seems to still be working normal. But I'll certainly keep an eye on the thing; we know these tech outfits are not to be trus...

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I've always just used the Leverguns "attachments"/ "add files" /"place inline" feature for .jpgs that I just keep within the size limits. Readers have to click on the photo if they want to see it full size but that doesn't seem like too big a deal (to me). Simplifies my...

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My main bullet for the Redhawk 44 revolver is a 300 grain LBT long-flatnose gas-checked bullet. I was anticipating great things with this bullet out of the Rossi levergun when I acquired the rifle a few years ago. Disappointment! It shoots OK at 50 yards but accuracy goes to poop by 100. I don't see...

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Just out of curiosity... I did a "Gunbroker" search, "Winchester 92" under "Lever Action Rifles" and came up with 18 actual m92 Winchester rifles. Some of those are newer manufactured ones but most are oldies. Looks like you gotta' be ready to pony up some serious bucks...

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This year in our "Buffalo Shooters" monthly shoot I thought I'd try out my Marlin 336A in 35 Remington for the "big levergun" match. I hadn't got very far along with loading up some try-out loads when I hit the bottom of my bullet supply. Nothing to do but fire up the old Lyman p...

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I can help with the jam thing. That is the classic "Marlin jam #1" check this post for directions from me and from NKJ on fixes. https://levergunscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32740&hilit=+marlin+jam As for the shootin' issues -- that load will want a pretty hard bullet for the...

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Thanks for pointing us at that fine 44/40 story, WCG. I enjoyed that.

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Very interesting -- there must be a lot about making brass that I have no idea about. They do make quite nice 32/20 brass which I have used to make 25/20 with very little problem. I took a couple of these 25/20s on to 218 Bee just to be sure I could, but fortunately will probably never need to do th...

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Griff wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:30 pm
ollogger wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:20 pmWell i wonder how much more time i get after trading off a mini 14 for a Ruger 96 in 44 mag?
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It said "...a fine lever action rifle"...

Dang Griff -- you're gonna' hurt Doc's feelings!

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Fine lookin' rifle there Bill. Yes indeedy! Uh... didn't you already own that very rifle once before?

This year I'm going to try my trusty 336A on our 500 yard game we do at our range. Hoping those 205 grain Lees will get to 500 yards before I run out of elevation on the old receiver sight.

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Hornady assumes that anybody shooting that premium-priced bullet is going to load for max velocities in "Ruger only" loadings which will require a really good crimp to keep the bullet from "jumping" forward and locking up the cylinder. But the fellow loading 7 grains of Unique fo...

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Talked with my San Antonio grandkid yesterday. He was getting ready to move his pineapple plant inside for the night.

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Now I'm trying to remember if I've got a 45 ACP bullet mold or not. Keep thinking I need a 45 ACP cylinder for the old Vaquero, that would keep fired brass in a more user friendly radius. Yes, the way these flangerbangers treat cases sure does make us old revolver guys cringe. Grandsons and I were ...

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Now that's a really nice buck, Ben. And some good pics. Thanks! I used the same cartridge and Hornady bullet to shoot an elk a few years ago using my Rem 141. Broadside hit, went clear through and the exit wound made a blood trail you could see from 30 feet away. It was a small elk, not a heckuva lo...

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Or -- "Trials and Tribulations of an old revolver guy trying to load for the dad-blasted Automatic thingy" 45Auto065.jpg Been reloading for revolvers for something over 50 years; should be no big deal to do the same for grandkids' newly acquired 45 autos, wouldn't you figure? I think I fin...

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Dang fine hunting 'n horses story, Jim. Thanks!

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I guess a number of us old fellers were "appreciating" without knowing it was official -- we had a "work party" at our local range and did a bunch of maintenance stuff. After raking up debris around the meeting room building I put new velcro on the long-range buffalo for holding ...

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Around these parts those LED lights are quite popular among the --so far small-- percentage of folks who do not dim for oncoming traffic. If I ever succumb to the "goin' postal" urge, those blue lights gonna' be my first targets.

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Still have no sense of taste, so it may be the symptom of something else -- but it is a mystery in these pandemic times. Granddaughter of mine is into "alternative medicine", and maybe what you'd call "alternative nutrition". Very anti-vax also. I used to think she was a nutcase...

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If a gas check were to come loose in the case somehow, would the biggest concern be that it could get stuck in the barrel, and cause an earth-shattering kaboom the next shot? Well that would be something to worry about all right! No, my worry is that if the check came off, the bullet wouldn't stay ...

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That looks like the old standard 35 Remington bullet I have used for years. The Lyman version is round-nosed and that is what I started with; RCBS moulds make the RNFP version like in the picture. And Lee makes their beautiful 6-cavity mould in a version which looks like a copy of the RCBS, and that...

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I'm with you Tutt: he not only makes detailed and knowledgeable posts on levergun stuff, he keeps us updated on the Great Covid battles with links to lengthy articles and videos on the subject. He can't possibly have time to go in to the office and see patients.

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Now that is classy!

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I thought that before I lube/sized the new bullets I'd open up my lube die a thousandth of two to take advantage of the .460 diameter of the new bullet. I've done this occasionally over the years and my previous Lyman dies had been easy to do. Not this one! I bought it about 5 years ago and somewher...

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