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I'm pretty sure the point of the thread was FBI going to 9mm and why. Nice sidestep..... :lol: BTW, the Bren 10 Lasted about as long as a short pee on a hot griddle....One of the Col's rare failures..... His idea didn't fail. The platform failed, mostly due to a failure of the magazine manufacturer...

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I'm pretty sure the point of the thread was FBI going to 9mm and why.

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Why would he, they were carrying 9's when he was alive....... This is not news, it has been coming for over a year. The "Army SOC" elements carrying .40 Glocks were Delta Force (they went to 9mm due to supply), they got tired of having to rebuild 1911s every week or so. Marine Recon went ...

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Why would he, they were carrying 9's when he was alive....... This is not news, it has been coming for over a year. The "Army SOC" elements carrying .40 Glocks were Delta Force (they went to 9mm due to supply), they got tired of having to rebuild 1911s every week or so. Marine Recon went ...

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Hmmm. Do the Geneva Convention rules about FMJ and other projectiles still apply? We only use FMJ on enemy combatants, because of some perceived need to be humane... but on our own citizens we have no such misguided notions? Actually that is a Hague convention "rule" that we never officia...

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jeepnik wrote:I blame Disney.

My favorite Disney characters. Irritates the stuff out of my wife and daughter when I say they are just misunderstood.

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Yea, they were each (father and son) fined $110, and further charges may be pending. Yellowstone has been doing an excellent job of deterring human interaction with the animals. 20 years ago you couldn't drive through the park without having to stop to avoid running over a bear. Now if you see one y...

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Yes, anything that walked away after 4 rounds of 45-70 warrants calling out the QRF. That paw

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I am not a single point fan except for pure house-hit roles where it's just a leash. I had a M4 on a single point during an exercise in Germany and nearly turned a simulated casualty into a real one when my rifle unexpectedly flipped back around to the front and whacked him in the head. THankfully,...

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I think the only thing worse than a HMMV in full kit is the web seating in a C130 with your ruck on your thighs.

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Saddens me they say they put the calf down, as mentioned.. to prevent others from doing same. Maybe if I dream hard enough the calf is alive a well in a buffalo witness protection program. Just seem like a terrible waste of the national mammal if they didn't save it Said park has managed a small po...

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Read the article. The buffalo in Yellowstone have brucellosis which requires long term quarantine before being released out of the park which means care and feeding. The park does not have those facilities. They simply let nature take its course and so far are very successful as the many species tha...

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JohndeFresno wrote:
sore shoulder wrote:. Personally it's to get me and mine to safety and a carbine. If I could go everywhere with a slung carbine I would.
Kinda difficult when sitting in a pew, however.

Can't be any worse than the front seat of a HMMV. Or a bus or plane.

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I think it's funny they thought it was cold in Yellowstone right now. They have no clue how cold it gets there in winter.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tourists-rescue-bison-calf-cold-yellowstone-n574461 Every time I go to Yellowstone there's more of these type. Injuries from the buffalo are becoming more prevalent due to selfie incidents etc. Despite the billboard sized signs all over the park stating keep 25 fe...

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As to pistol stops, I know there was a published (newspaper) story about 3 guys fishing in Alaska. 1 had a 12ga, the other a .44 in a shoulder holster, the third a 9mm (all he owned at the time). They're all busy fishing when a brown/grizzly (unsure) decided it wanted their fish. Shotgun guy droppe...

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Today I was reading a book by Craig Boddington called Deadly Encounters. On page 180 he made a statement that surprised me. He says that John Wooters made a study of encounters with bears and, at that time in the 1980's, " No one who had defended himself or herself against a bear attack with a...

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Well, having had to, wrestling a guy into cuffs with a slung rifle is really not fun. So yes, for the majority of our lower-threat stuff, the pistol is fine. If I KNOW i'm going into bad stuff (shootings, etc)....I almost always have the long gun handy. I've become a big fan of the single point att...

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Panzercat wrote:1911s can be double stack 9s too, you know?

At what wieght and reliability penalty?

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Ah yes. I've often longed for the days when the sight of a man with a rifle caused no more concern than a man with a briefcase does today. Professionally the pistol is for if the carbine goes down or no time for mag change. Personally it's to get me and mine to safety and a carbine. If I could go ev...

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Several posters with the background to back it up have tried to elaborate on the doctrinal reasoning behind the choice of a 9mm. But it seems it keeps coming around to the bigger hole and shot placement argument. Both of which I consider fairly irrelevant in the scheme of things. The 9mm hardball wi...

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It's always been funny to me how many people will proclaim a .38 +p from a snubby to be acceptable as a self defense carry gun, but 9mm is not acceptable. Apparently they have not examined the caliber and ballistics of a 9mm compared to a +p .38. I've always wondered why, with its greater case capa...

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Condolences Jim, have courage brother.

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It's always been funny to me how many people will proclaim a .38 +p from a snubby to be acceptable as a self defense carry gun, but 9mm is not acceptable. Apparently they have not examined the caliber and ballistics of a 9mm compared to a +p .38.

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Why would he, they were carrying 9's when he was alive....... This is not news, it has been coming for over a year. The "Army SOC" elements carrying .40 Glocks were Delta Force (they went to 9mm due to supply), they got tired of having to rebuild 1911s every week or so. Marine Recon went ...

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I shoulda looked at the poster first. lol

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With the current scarcity and cost of decent .22 RF I'm looking more and more at a little center fire option such as that. Pretty little shooter for sure.

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I've been thinking about another slide in. Had a 12 foot for the long bed crew cab Ford diesel and towing a jeep it was a really great hunting setup. I've had travel trailers and while they're nice it looks like you can get some pretty decent comfort in one of those hard side palominos and even the ...

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That's the prettiest Glock I ever seen Blaine.

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Yes the little bugger is surprisingly snappy to shoot.

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I would have felt I was paying too much at $300 for that gun but would have if I really wanted it, but that would be the cap IMO. You did the right thing. Just keep looking they are out there and prob in better shape than that one.

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BlaineG wrote: Kanye West was found alive in his appartment.....

Ugh, what can't HE die in a plane crash?

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Like Grizz I'm partial to the WalMart Winchester white box FMJFP. I've seen several tests on that bullet and it out penetrates everything else it was compared to like the Corbon etc. For a little pocket pipsqueak designed for punching distances I want penetration.

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10mm Buffalo Bore 180gr@750ft lbs.

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Until I saw this post I'd never heard of a "muddy girl" stock or gun, so I googled it to see what it is. I like it! And I'm a 70+ year old man, so it's appeal is not limited to teenage girls. OK, so I probably wouldn't have it done to any of my guns, but I can sure see why somebody would....

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Until I saw this post I'd never heard of a "muddy girl" stock or gun, so I googled it to see what it is. I like it! And I'm a 70+ year old man, so it's appeal is not limited to teenage girls. OK, so I probably wouldn't have it done to any of my guns, but I can sure see why somebody would....

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The .40 issue is a combination of problems. A round loaded to near over pressure levels trying desperately to be a 10mm (and utterly failing), an unsupported chamber and cases that were weak at the head. That's 3 strikes just waiting for an anomaly. I personally have a visceral dislike of the .40 bu...

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I've only used CCI and lately some Wolf. I've used tens of thousands of CCI and no failures. My understanding on the touching primers problem is that it was due to the Mercury used in older primers but it's no longer used. The military uses CCI. I haven't used enough of the Wolf to give them the tru...

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Blaine, good thread choice by the way. I chuckled a little the first time I read the title. Between this thread and the other 9mm thread, it seems .45acp and 1911's are gaining victim status.

If this were a Liberal site it would be called 1911 shameing and .45-phobic.

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My first, and only 9mm has not yet arrived, but I imagine I'll get a couple boxes of some +P+ 124 grain JHPs.... Now that "they" have decided that the .357 sig was just a short-lived fad and that the .40 recoils too much and destroys the plastic guns and that the .45 is obviously obsolete...

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Jello tests and reality don't always coincide. Jello is a specific set of conditions. What folks seem to forget is that there are ever changing variable conditions in life. Personally I know the .45acp works. I can't make the same claim about the other rounds m I used to think .45 was a magic bulle...

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And if I want more power, a 10mm makes .45acp look silly. Maybe for bear hunting. Following that line of logic is: .45acp makes a 9mm look silly, and a 45-70 is silly compared to a modern round? Right? :idea: Not really. The difference between a +p+ 9mm and .45acp is insignificant compared to the d...

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If you can't handle the recoil of a .45, shoot a 9mm. I can shoot a pistol grip 12ga with magnum loads one handed repeatedly with no side effects. For a combat pistol I would choose a 9mm over a .45 every time. I am not alone. By unanimous request MARSOC recently allowed their operators to carry G1...

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I can confirm that those Otis cleaning kits are full of useless pieces that get lost easy, and you simply cannot clean the chamber properly/at all with them. I'll have to look at mine again (i still use the rods) but I don't think it even has a chamber brush, which is probably the most important too...

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I'm confused why they chose .308 for use against "large dangerous predators". Will it work? Sure, under ideal conditions, and when do those happen? But why choose it on purpose. I would think a .338 or .375 would be a far better choice. Considering Ruger happens to make a .375 that's perf...

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That scruffy looking dog is the real star of the show.

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I'm confused why they chose .308 for use against "large dangerous predators". Will it work? Sure, under ideal conditions, and when do those happen? But why choose it on purpose. I would think a .338 or .375 would be a far better choice. Considering Ruger happens to make a .375 that's perfe...

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2571 wrote:Ollie North was a liar & a criminal.

I doubt you have ever committed yourself to anything with the integrity and patriotism of a man such as Oliver North.

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Don't sweat it Blaine, I do the same thing. I've got a Glock 21SF that i use as a house gun. A guy at work wants it for his dad and i told him i would swap him for a Glock 19. I'm not sure why.... :? I guess cause it would be something i could carry if i wanted (the 21 is big). It's cheap to shoot....

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I can understand a 9, but a Berreta? As someone who gets issued the M9, that is probably the last pistol would choose for a personal gun. I've qualified expert no problem, but I absolutely despise the upside down backwards decocker on it, or any pistol for that matter. And of course you know my pers...

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