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Nanuk · Post by **Nanuk** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:35 am

Hello everyone, I am new here but not new to leverguns. I currently have 2 centerfire leverguns, marlins one in 357 and one in 44. I had thoughts of picking up a Rossi in 454 Casull, mostly for hunting. My 44 marlin is one of the older ones with micro groove rifling and it is not the most accurate rifle I have ever had. I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

Is the 454 from a rifle that much more powerful than a 44 mag loaded with an equivalent bullet?

Does the Rossi 92 still use the hourglass shaped firing pin that is prone to breakage?

Thanks,

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:13 am

Welcome Nanuk! Good to have you hear. Can't comment on the 44/454 rifle debate, but there are many here that can.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:17 am

Welcome to the fire. Someone will come along and answer your 44/454 question that has actual experience, but I'd say it is probably quite noticeable.

Buffboy · Post by **Buffboy** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:06 pm

The 454 out of my 16" barreled Puma will pick up another 400+/-fps over revolver velocities. To my way of thinking, the 454 out of a revolver is about the same as a 44 mag out of a rifle.

Examples: 44mag 240gr bullet, will out of a carbine, run about 1800fps at full throttle. A 240gr out of a 454 will run about 2200/2300fps at full throttle.

I get 2000fps out of a 300gr bullet in my 16" Puma, the same load in a 20" barrel would probably pick up another 80/100fps. Recoil is uhmmm, noticable

Paco wrote an excellent article for gunblast on the 454 out of a rifle.
http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_Legacy_454.htm

WinM71 · Post by **WinM71** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:42 pm

Welcome to the fire!

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:47 pm

Buffboy wrote:I get 2000fps out of a 300gr bullet in my 16" Puma....

Great googly moogly!

That sounds pretty lethal at both ends.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:44 pm

Welcome to the fire! Maybe Nate Kiowa Jones can come along and answer your question about the Rossi .454 firing pin. I don't have one, so don't know.

dr walker · Post by **dr walker** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:06 pm

welcome to the forum.

Nanuk · Post by **Nanuk** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:14 pm

Thanks guys, this looks like a pretty active place.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:16 pm

Well, if you want some real power, getcha a 95 in 45-70 and quit messing around with those pistol rounds

Welcome to the board.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:18 pm

O.S.O.K. wrote:Well, if you want some real power, getcha a 95 in 45-70 and quit messing around with those pistol rounds
Welcome to the board.

Uh, you need to read The .45 Colt in Leverguns by Paco. It ain't anyone's "weak sister" in a strong action!

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:21 pm

I have a Marlin CB in 45 Colt and it can push a 300 grain hc bullet to 1600 fps.

I'm just saying that if you want power in a levergun in a factory chambering, then 45-70 is the way-to-go.

Capische?

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:31 pm

Yep, those 500 grainers are mite too big to cycle thru the '92 action.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:31 pm

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:05 pm

Welcome to the fire!

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:11 pm

WELCOME !!

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