Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
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Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
I'm pulling out my .30 WCF handloading gear and realize I have a real shortage of good accurate load recipes. I've used 3031 for the most part but never gotten great groups with it using 150 or 170 grain jacketed bullets. I currently have several hundred 170 grainers, both cast and jacketed. Rifle is a neat wartime Win 94. It will shoot excellent groups with 170 Partition factory loads, but those are $$$.
What powder/bullet combos have you found particularly accurate.
What powder/bullet combos have you found particularly accurate.
Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
My two favourite loads for the 30-30 are ;
The Ranch Dog 311-165GC with 22 grains XMP5744 and a CCI200 primer !
Also the "357MAX" 312-150GC with 21 grains of XMP5744 and the CCI200 primer !
I am shooting both of these right now in and old Marlin 336SC micro groove rifle of 1962 vintage and they both shoot great in this little rifle !
The Ranch Dog load is what I use for Leveraction Silhouette !
Both these loads in my estimation are adequate for taking deer within 100 yards
The Ranch Dog 311-165GC with 22 grains XMP5744 and a CCI200 primer !
Also the "357MAX" 312-150GC with 21 grains of XMP5744 and the CCI200 primer !
I am shooting both of these right now in and old Marlin 336SC micro groove rifle of 1962 vintage and they both shoot great in this little rifle !
The Ranch Dog load is what I use for Leveraction Silhouette !
Both these loads in my estimation are adequate for taking deer within 100 yards

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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
Sierra 170gr JFP, WLR primer, 30gr 748. My point of aim, top of the front sight on the bottom of the belly, does not change until I shoot the 200m rams.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
With cast 165 gr. lead bullets my Winchester likes 25.0 grains of H4895.
With Speer 170 gr. jacketed soft points I up it to 30.5 grains of H4895.
Both loads use CCI 250 primers.
With Speer 170 gr. jacketed soft points I up it to 30.5 grains of H4895.
Both loads use CCI 250 primers.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
I use 21 grains of XMP 5744 with a 175 grain Saeco tapered cast bullet sized .311 at the base. Gives me 1800+ and 2-3" @ 100 meters out of a half dozen different pre-war 30-30's. If I hold good and tight, the 175 Saeco will sail out and hit the 400 meter turkey regularly or come mighty close to it.--------------------Sixgun
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
Thanks! Sounds like that XMP is the one to get for cast. I've had no luck getting patterns with light 2400 loads.
I'll give these a try.
I'll give these a try.
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Speer 170 FP 33 grains of Varget shoots VERY well out of my 94 Legacy and my H&R Handi .
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
Well, I guess you'd never like or be interested in my standard which is great for velocity and accuracy in all my .30-30s... 30 gr. IMR 3031 under the Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington or Winchester (PP or ST) 170 gr. bullets.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
For jacketed 170s I use 30 gr of old 3031. I don't shoot many of these and my 3031 is about 10 years old. I understand that newer 3031 is faster and other load data is available.
For cast, I use the 311041, tumble lubed in LLA, sized to .309, gas checked, and tumble lubed again. 27.5 grs of 4895 and a CCI 200 primer gives me 1850 fps out of my Win 94.
For cast, I use the 311041, tumble lubed in LLA, sized to .309, gas checked, and tumble lubed again. 27.5 grs of 4895 and a CCI 200 primer gives me 1850 fps out of my Win 94.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
Jacketed 170's 29gr of IMR 30-31
Cast lyman 173gr 28gr H-335
Cast lyman 173gr 28gr H-335
Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
I've been going with 31 or 32 grains of 3031 so maybe dropping it to 29 or 30 would tighten up the groups. I'll give it a try. I have about three pounds of that powder on hand.
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Hobie gave me this same advice a couple years ago, and boy did it work for me. I couldn't quite squeeze that much powder behind my Hornady FP bullets, 28.5 grains seems to be about max for my rifles. But it does shoot well. I have a 1951 Winchester 94 that prefers 28.5 grains of Varget behind the 170 grain Nosler Partition. Not an overly fast load, but accurate.Hobie wrote:Well, I guess you'd never like or be interested in my standard which is great for velocity and accuracy in all my .30-30s... 30 gr. IMR 3031 under the Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington or Winchester (PP or ST) 170 gr. bullets.
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Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
For 170gr jacketed (Hornady, Speer, Remington) 33grs W748. I have just aquired some Varget to supplement my powder inventory as I was having trouble locating a regular supply of W748.
With cast bullets I prefer IMR 3031.
With cast bullets I prefer IMR 3031.
Re: Your Favorite .30-30 Recipes, esp for 170's.
I use 28g of H322 and Horn. 170 FP. This has proven an accurate combo in my Winchesters and has also shot good out of a 14" contender barrel I once owned.
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