Winchester primers?

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Winchester primers?

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I have been having misfires with my Marlin 1894CL 32-20 after I loaded up some Winchester primers. Are these harder to ignite than other brands, I have not had trouble with this rifle before.
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Question, when did you buy them?
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Some years ago I did some primer sensitivity testing. Federals were easiest to ignite, Remington hardest by a significant margin, and Winchester and CCI in the middle.

And I at one time had some failures of Winchester small pistol primers to ignite H110 in my 357 revolver (for which magnum primers were recommended for the ball powder even back in those days). I went to the more appropriate small pistol magnum primers and have never had another failure, so that failure was not a Winchester failure but an Earl failure.

Another time I thought I got a bad batch of CCI rifle primers. Turned out they were just slightly larger diameter than I was accustomed to and required a much firmer press to seat the primer fully and again this was an Earl failure and not a primer failure. Anyway, if you have those babies fully and firmly seated and still have failures then something is wrong with that batch would be my supposition.
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I have had issues with WLP primers in Starline brass in .44 Special in the Bulldog. Currently have some ammo loaded with Federal 150s to test.
I was tempted to buy a few WLPs yesterday at the Academy in Abilene, but decided to pass. They also had Winchester small pistol and small rifle on hand.
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IIRC the cup depth on Winchesters was shallower than some other and they tended to seat deeper into the pocket as a result which can cause issues. I do not know if its still an issue tho
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I have been using WLR primers for years with no issues and are mostly what I have on hand.
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TraderVic wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:21 am I have been using WLR primers for years with no issues and are mostly what I have on hand.
Same here.


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earlmck wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:45 pm

Another time I thought I got a bad batch of CCI rifle primers. Turned out they were just slightly larger diameter than I was accustomed to and required a much firmer press to seat the primer fully and again this was an Earl failure and not a primer failure.
I bought 2000 of those many years ago, absolutely would not even start into the primer pockets of several different cartridges. Wound up throwing them out.
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Well, I think I have it whipped and it wasn't the primers. I tested my trigger pull with my Lyman gauge and got 1 pound 6 ounces so I put a few little washers under the hammer spring, brought it up to 2 pounds 4 ounces. Went back out to the range and fired 20 rounds without a misfire, included were several that had previously not gone off. :D
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That sounds like a good fix. I use all kinds of primers and have a lot of the WSP primers. My old single action sixgun sets them all off really well. I often bush the hammer spring so it gives a harder whack. Never had a problem setting off rifle primers that way.
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