When Russia landed on Venus...

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When Russia landed on Venus...

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https://youtu.be/ydibFhTuimY?si=r3NaS0rDKaBXKr-z

I had no idea that Russia had landed there... :oops:

https://youtu.be/ydibFhTuimY?si=r3NaS0rDKaBXKr-z

Expert Carl Sagan thought Venus was a swamp overheated due to Venus having 'global warming' from the 'greenhouse effect'; I guess too many SUVs driven by those Venutians... :)
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Sagan was smart. But let’s face it, smart people without any information aren’t any more reliable in their predictions than a two year old.

Also, there is a tendency by smart people to step outside their area of expertise. Folks believe the nonsense they put forward simply because they are “smart”
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gotta respect the sov stick-to-it-ness

according to the presenter, the surface is 900°F at the surface, and the atmosphere is 40x heavier than ours is, must be the aliens done it . . . 'cause we just can't do it. in earth bodies. yet. however i suspect that our resurrection bodies will be ok.
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For some reason, I didn't recall any of the USSR's Venus missions. Interesting.
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I remember our Mariner mission but not the russkies I'm sure we're tight lipped about it!
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Nope, they didn’t try to hide it. But the world just ignored it until it was almost forgotten.

They did learn quite a bit Mariner never did.
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jeepnik wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:30 am. . . there is a tendency by smart people to step outside their area of expertise. Folks believe the nonsense they put forward simply because they are “smart”. . .
I see that CONSTANTLY among physicians; they had enough perseverance and tuition loans or scholarships to make it through a dozen years post-high-school before getting a real job, so assume they know all there is about everything. :roll:

The reality is they know a lot about a few things.
Often they have less common-knowledge than average, and less common-sense than average.
Nothing to be ashamed about; they are often experts in their field, but they appear incredibly stupid (and arrogant) if they step outside their area.
It happens to Family Physicians all the time that specialists in specific areas dismiss our input because they have even more training in an even narrower area; having a cardiovascular surgeon countermand my hormone replacement orders for a menopausal woman because he thinks the estradiol/estriol cream “causes blood clots” is a classic example…not at all true, but then the internist comes along who doesn’t know one way or the other and they will ‘side’ with the one whose car costs more than my house… :lol: :roll:

Sagan was smart within his bubble, but NOT smart enough to know there was a complex world outside his bubble he had no knowledge of.
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As an avid TN (telescope Nut) I vividly remember the Venera landings. The US news covered them very well at the time. I remember seeing the photos on the news my dad watched (NBC). Also all the astronomy magazines I read back then had details too. Believe me, if the USSR had any successful space missions they were NEVER tight lipped about them!!
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