POLITICS: Reflections on Heller

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POLITICS: Reflections on Heller

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Reflections on Heller
by A.X. Perez
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The final decision in Heller v. District of Columbia is pretty much what most reasonable people expected.

Some probable results:

A lot of lawyers are going to make a lot of money arguing which gun laws constitute an infringement of the right to keep and bear arms and what is a "reasonable regulation" to prevent criminals and irresponsible persons from using guns to violate their neighbors rights.

Various pro and antigun groups are going to be requesting donations to fight for legislation and court decisions that meet their definition of "reasonable regulation" (ranging from none at all to only rich people and polticians holding offices' bodyguards can be armed.).

Many pro and antigunners will become complacent about this debate. After all, their side has won (or lost) so why keep flogging a dead horse?

Also there are some points to consider:

In Heller and in Kennedy v. Louisiana the Court stuck to stricter Constitutional interpretations than a lot of people like. Freedom is neither liberal nor conservative, both extremes put other goals over liberty. (By the way, would you rather be executed for raping a child or get the general population of Angola State Prison in Louisiana turned loose on you? The man should have told his lawyers to shut up!). Libertarians should beware of left and right wing ideologues.

Washington DC and other polities are going to have to come up with realistic plans to reduce crime and violence instead of ducking the issue and blaming their problems on a surplus of guns. You're stuck with the guns, now how do you intend to make your territories sane and decent enough that people won't be so strongly tempted to misuse them?

While the gun rights debate is still important, what other threats to freedom must we face and deal with? Remember, once the enemies of liberty find a way to start restricting one set of rights, they will find a way to restrict others.

Most importantly, the next time we go buy weapons, it will be those who try to stop us, not we who are exercising our God given and Constitutionally guaranteed rights, who will have society telling them that they are doing something shameful.

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Re: POLITICS: Reflections on Heller

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One thing I'll bet we see in D.C. over the next few years is a decrease in residential break-ins and other crimes on private property.
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Re: POLITICS: Reflections on Heller

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one word that continually rears it's head in the ongoing controversy that seems to defy logic is "reasonable"... :o

what's reasonable to diane feinstein is not reasonable to the rest of us, but...guess who will have more say in what "reasonable" means? :roll:

there has been an adjudication made by the SCOTUS but i don't think that means much to many. they intend to do what they wish anyway. they'll continually flaunt disregard for the ruling by enacting "reasonable" regulation/restrictions/prohibitions/fees/taxes/sanctions.

california legislature has a history of doing that very thing and with 'moonbeam' brown as SAG...we're in trouble insofaras voters having a say so in gay marriage, firearms issues and illegal immigration issues. he openly defies the voters, along with the california supreme court. one good example is the new "ruling" by california that FFL's from out of state must get permission from the DOJ of california to ship firearms to an FFL dealer in california. i'm not an attorney so i don't know the laws involving interstate commerce involving firearms but from what i read it's under federal jurisdiction, NOT the state's (if the firearm is legal in the state it is being shipped to)

i contend that now is the time for gunowners/organzations to go on the offensive! :evil:
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i contend that now is the time for gunowners/organzations to go on the offensive!
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Re: POLITICS: Reflections on Heller

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Old Ironsights wrote:
Most importantly, the next time we go buy weapons, it will be those who try to stop us, not we who are exercising our God given and Constitutionally guaranteed rights, who will have society telling them that they are doing something shameful.

OI, now that has a very nice ring to it...
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