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African Soldier SuesBritish Army Over Cold Weather
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A soldier from Africa is suing the Ministry of Defence (MoD) for £150,000, claiming they failed to protect him from cold weather conditions.
Michael Asiamah, from Ghana, brought the negligence claim after allegedly suffering a “cold-related” condition during exercises on Salisbury Plain in March 2016. According to his lawyers, the 36-year-old suffered pain and numbness in his feet and hands after he was exposed to 18 hours of cold and windy conditions during Exercise Scorpion.
Mr Asiamah told the High Court his superiors had neglected to warn him to bring warm kit such as gloves, socks, and boots ahead of the exercise, which he said took place one week after he was forced to spend five hours listening to lectures in cold weather while dressed in civilian clothing in Naseby, Northamptonshire.
His legal team argues officers exposed Mr Asiamah to the uncomfortable conditions despite knowing Africans are more susceptible to cold-related conditions, according to court papers which quote a 2009 military study which found soldiers of African origin were 30 times more likely to suffer cold-related injuries than indigenous Europeans.
The ex-soldier also accused the MoD of failing to follow its own advice on evacuating people with non-freezing cold injuries in order to prevent the conditions from worsening, reports the Express, which saw papers relating to the case. Mr Asiamah, who served with the Adjutant General’s Corps until he left the Army in October 2016, claims he is still suffering as a result of the MoD’s failings, alleging that ongoing effects from the cold-related condition have all but killed his dream of becoming a Physical Education instructor.
Army officials, who are expected to contest the former soldier’s claims, maintain that Mr Asiamah was provided with appropriate clothing for the exercises.
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The world has gone upsidedown. How about being greatful for training in a 1st world country, probably the first time he worked under decent conditions of service and general safety.
If he couldn't handle the weather in England he could have looked at other options.
He could have stayed in Africa.
He could have got himself an office job.
He could have used his little pea brain and dressed appropriately.
I know if I was going outdoors in England I'd be wearing warm clothes, because even in summer they don't see the sunshine over there.
Oh, I almost forgot, if he can't dress himself, he could have brought his mother along. Seems these days everyone should always have their mother along, because nobody is responsible for themselves anymore.
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What I find interesting is this nitwit is only suing for £150,000- if this happened here the suit would be 150,000,000 ! Ship him off the Greenland- then he will understand COLD!
Soldiers tend to be less than sympathetic toward fellow soldiers that they perceive to be whiners.
This particular soldier should have had every expectation that he be would treated with the discipline demanded of every soldier, but the evidence remains that the 2009 military study indicated that that Africans are more susceptible to cold-related conditions. Soldiers of African origin were 30 times more likely to suffer cold-related injuries than indigenous Europeans. That information should have been recognized and heeded.
This seems to be an issue of biology, and not discipline.
Even having been provided with appropriate clothing for the exercises, the leadership had a responsibility to attend this mans condition.
A soldier that cannot function cannot fight.
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Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
This reminds me of a story I was told, there was a flats fishing guide down in the Keys. When fishing at night for tarpon he would wear a snowmobile suit when under way. He was cold at night in a flats boat. Glad I like the cold, can always put more layers on!
That guy from Ghana should also sue his teachers for not teaching basic geography, Africa Hot England Cold.
I guess someone did teach him how to screw the system though.…
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gamekeeper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:37 pm
That guy from Ghana should also sue his teachers for not teaching basic geography, Africa Hot England Cold.
I guess someone did teach him how to screw the system though.…
gamekeeper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:37 pmThat guy from Ghana should also sue his teachers for not teaching basic geography, Africa Hot England Cold.
I guess someone did teach him how to screw the system though.…
He musta missed school that day!
Probably most other days also!
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He claims they neglected to warn him to bring warm clothes, etc ahead of an exercise??? WOW. How one could not remember to wear that type of attire in a British winter must be so dumb that it makes a guy wonder how he even got into the military. In a different light, had he been deployed to Iraq and become very ill due to dehydration, would he have sued the army for not having warned him to drink more fluids?!
We live in a society of idiots and morons who have no common sense, and have to be told to the minute detail what to do, and when to do it. If you don't take them by the hand and treat them like your 2 year old, they'll sue you for not holding their hand.
Would this happen everywhere? No. But it will happen in "advanced" civilizations where we have lots of attorneys. The number of stupid people is directly related to the number of attorneys in any society.
When I was in basic they ran us around in paved surfaces in combat boots. Every guy in our unit had shin splints from running on hard surfaces with hard sole boots. Wouldn't take a genius to know this was going to happen, and that tennis shoes would be better issue footwear if they planned to run us on blacktop. But that was the military then, and I don't recall anyone suing them for the stupid mistake. In fact we were back out there running every day, even with shin splints that hadn't healed yet. Hurt like heck, but they weren't going to give us a day off to heal up.
308magtip wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:40 pm
Tank Hill Ft Jackson SC 1964.What was blacktop?Allit seems we had were sand when dry and mud when wet roads to run and march on.
We ran all over Lackland AFB in basic on the streets that ran around the base and barracks. Of course we got out in the dirt occasionally, and found that to be a treat compared to running on the blacktop!
That's exactly why they have exercises as such, to weed out the weak and build the strong.
I figure he just plain forgot his stuff.
Lol, poor guy.
As a young kid my uncle took me on his paper route in mid winter... I asked about the cold... he said I'd be ok...
I was never the same after that day.
I'm a fairly big tough guy but I'll turn into a 6 year old girl pretty quick if I can't keep my hands and feet warm these days. No good for nuthin at that point. While labouring stucco as a kid I'd have to do laps around the house to get warm sometimes. The guys thought it funny, while I was worried about keeping my job (which I did).
Some people just aren't cut out for certain things, plain and simple. Squash it and use him somewhere else. Maybe peeling potatoes for a while...
How one could not remember to wear that type of attire in a British winter must be so dumb that it makes a guy wonder how he even got into the military. In a different light, had he been deployed to Iraq and become very ill due to dehydration, would he have sued the army for not having warned him to drink more fluids?!
