Ruger LCP II

[Grizz]

I checked one of these out in the Austin, Tx region. My impressions are a. that it's now a mini-glockish clone, 2. that the trigger is way too light for condition one carry in MY pocket, and b. that it is actually a target trigger with a better letoff than either of my XDs. And it has real sights for those who need them.

I would love to shoot this thing. One of the things that sold me on the LCP is the trigger that is roughly equivelant to a DAO wheel gun, which, with a totally shrouded hammer is about as goof proof and reliable as possible. It is not going to discharge accidentally, ever.

Glocks are known to have ADs, or perhaps NDs, as witnessed by the experts with perforated buttocks from careless handling, including a shirt tail getting into the trigger guard when holstering a glock. This kind of carelessness is easy to snort at, but it happens enough to be a warning sign.

This would never happen with the LCP line until now.

I would like to hear from someone who has spent some time shooting the new II, and I would love to run some ammo through one, and I think I am responsible enough to carry it safely, but I would have a hard time recommending it to a new shooter. The release is a shock after using the prior versions. More like my G22 without the sponginess. Glock fans might be delighted to have a 380 that actually conceals like a pocket pistol should.

Although, it would be fun to tighten up my LCP "groups" a bit.

380ACP.jpg

any thoughts on this?

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ruger- ... ll-review/

[1894cfan]

One holster maker agrees with you....unclegeorgeswalletholsters.com/Pages/default.aspx

[sore shoulder]

Having pulled my keys on a carabiner out of my pocket to find an LCP hanging from it, I am perfectly happy with the trigger. I do not expect any kind of target accuracy past spitting distance, smooth trigger pull, high vis sights etc etc. I expect it to go bang, and I expect it to be easy to carry in my front pocket without needing a special holster or anything else. I've broken my self from putting anything else in that pocket. I can be standing hands in pockets in a very non threatening manner with it in my hand ready to pull out and use. My training routine often begins with pulling it from my pocket, emptying it, reloading, empty again, then transition to the one I have on my hip. If it hits the paper on the pistol target rapid fire simply looking over the slide in a two handed hold I consider that a success. I have done this dozens of times over many years and it has never ever failed except one time when i reassembled the slide springs incorrectly. I wouldn't take 10 of those new ones for it.

[AJMD429]

One holster maker agrees with you....unclegeorgeswalletholsters.com/Pages/default.aspx

He's an interesting guy:

http://www.unclegeorgeswalletholsters.c ... eorge.aspx

And he agrees with you about the dangerously light trigger:

http://www.unclegeorgeswalletholsters.c ... RNING.aspx

[Blaine]

I'm completely satisfied with my "old" style LCP. It's my EDC, never leave the house without it, and two extra mags. It has the Crimson Trace laser sight built into it. Not much use in the daylight past a few yards, but if I was somehow in a strange shooting position, the laser might be handy. She's a vicious little beast to shoot, and more than a couple mags-full has my trigger finger very tender, or bleeding. IMO, this shooter can't be carried in condition"1" because is isn't cocked until you pull the trigger, and the trigger is very heavy, but just right for SD. I've never shot it on paper, but little white rocks, and pop cans are at risk within 10 feet or so. That's really all I expect of it. I don't shoot it a lot, but it's never failed to fire, or cycle.

[mohavesam]

It is a belly gun. Not a target gun.

If you (anyone) fancy yourself needing to shoot across an open space or maybe today is the day you will get into a chasing gun fight (outside a Hollywood set) then a more-appropriate handgun may be in order?

I carried an LCP in various locations and then went back to my 380ACP KelTec, in which I have more confidence. Personal choice. I have no real interest in the LCPII, as I don't cotton to guns without hammers.

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[sore shoulder]

sam you bring something up I've always wondered about. The LCP is pretty much a kel-tec. What are the differences and how was Ruger able to make a LCP clone?

[Pisgah]

Having pulled my keys on a carabiner out of my pocket to find an LCP hanging from it, I am perfectly happy with the trigger.

The very reason I, A) never carry anything else but a pocket holster in the pocket holding a pistol, and B) always use a pocket holster that covers the trigger, regardless of the gun and its trigger arrangement.

[tman]

sam you bring something up I've always wondered about. The LCP is pretty much a kel-tec. What are the differences and how was Ruger able to make a LCP clone?

Seems everybody is trying to reinvent the Glock and Keltec. Manufactures need to either come up with some new, or go back in time and make perfect copies of the colt single action army or colt python. How many different takes on the 1911A1 can the THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN showcase, anyway?

[Rusty]

I listened to Mas Ayoob's podcast just last night. He and his wife Gail talked about the LCPII. One of the things Mas said was that Ruger is now shipping the LCPII with a pocket holster and they advise people to use the pocket holster and advise against pocket carry without a holster.

[Blaine]

Those rubber pocket sleeves (I got one with the old model long ago) that come with LCPs suck. They stick to the inside of the pocket, but if it's a large pocket it will turn sideways and you might as well forget about a quick shot. I don't care for a pants pocket carry, but if I have to, the LCP is the only thing, plus a handkerchief that goes in the pocket. I'm in jeans/tee, and biker vest 99% of the time, and the LCP fits nicely, sans pocket sleeve, in the upper inside vest pocket. A couple of extra mags in another pocket.

[Grizz]

the lcp I carry is the first model after the trigger recall, early days, and mine came with the corrected trigger. so it's about the oldest version next to the recalled first batch.

my wife's is the lcp-c, the so called custom model. this one has actual sights, the stainless guide rod and the red trigger that were aftermarket items. the trigger pull on her custom is still in the DAO revolver range, with a different length of pull required to finish cocking the hammer, and a better letoff, without getting into the squirrely target trigger zone. I think that the custom is the one to get if it's still around. I'm hoping ruger doesn't stop making it, but sometimes that's the way they roll.

here's a picture

[sore shoulder]

I may look in to that trigger Grizz. Mine is pre-recall model. One nice thing is Ruger sent me the extended floor plates for 2 magazines when they returned it after the recall.

[Grizz]

check out the II version in a side by side, let me know what you think. I think I would buy that custom if I saw a good price on it.

we paid $250 OTD for her new one. I think I said 240 before but she straightened me out.

otoh, I bet a guy could make good money with the lcp II, who could resist putting up 50$ against it? it could pay for itself at the range.