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I read the quote below in today's edition of "The Federalist Chronicle". Doesn't surprise me - Robbins is on a short list of mine of actors who I won't patronize at all; i.e. - if they are in a movie, I won't see it no matter what. His idiot wife is also on the list - they make a perfect pair of morons.

Still, this just blew me away - not that they would feel this way, but that he was dumb enough to say it publicly. Here's the quote:

"[J]ust when we were close to a national news media providing a general consensus on what the truth is, along comes the Internets [sic] that allows its users a choice on the kind of news it watches and the YouTube. My God, we've got to stop them." -- actor Tim Robbins

Let's examine his "mindset" (I use that term in the loosest of ways). He's acknowledging the leftist bent of the MSM, and crying about the rise of alternative media - such as the internet - that prevent the one-sided garbage that used to pass for news from carrying the day. He thinks media determines truth, versus reports it. He hates that people can actually choose which sources of news they use and trust. And he wants to stop any alternative voice to their "truth".

And their side has the gall to call us fascists... :evil:

Newsflash - Tim Robbins pulls his head out of his rump long enough to insert his foot in his mouth. Story at 11:00...
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Who's the idiot wife?
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awp101 wrote:Who's the idiot wife?
Susan Sarandon :evil:
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Ah, Dumb and Dumber.

Or Tweedledum and Tweedledumber?

Maybe Tweedledee and Tweedleditz?
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they call us fascists because they are comunists. They can call me what ever they like.

He and his ilk are sheltered dim wits that couldn't find their tail ends with both hands a map and someone to read it for them. They dont get my money at the theaters.
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Narcissistic pin heads that surround themselves with equally dimwitted sycophants that parrot their every word as if they'd just been spoken by Socrates.
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Re: Politics - Tim Robbins quote

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Ysabel Kid wrote:I read the quote below in today's edition of "The Federalist Chronicle". Doesn't surprise me - Robbins is on a short list of mine of actors who I won't patronize at all; i.e. - if they are in a movie, I won't see it no matter what. His idiot wife is also on the list - they make a perfect pair of morons.

Still, this just blew me away - not that they would feel this way, but that he was dumb enough to say it publicly. Here's the quote:

"[J]ust when we were close to a national news media providing a general consensus on what the truth is, along comes the Internets [sic] that allows its users a choice on the kind of news it watches and the YouTube. My God, we've got to stop them." -- actor Tim Robbins

Let's examine his "mindset" (I use that term in the loosest of ways). He's acknowledging the leftist bent of the MSM, and crying about the rise of alternative media - such as the internet - that prevent the one-sided garbage that used to pass for news from carrying the day. He thinks media determines truth, versus reports it. He hates that people can actually choose which sources of news they use and trust. And he wants to stop any alternative voice to their "truth".

And their side has the gall to call us fascists... :evil:

Newsflash - Tim Robbins pulls his head out of his rump long enough to insert his foot in his mouth. Story at 11:00...
Ysabel - while I disagree with Robbins' suggestion that the media somehow determines the truth, I disagree equally with what I believe to be your misrepresentation of his point.

What I understand him to be disturbed about is that anyone can post something on the internet and call it truth. Happens here every single day in fact. So Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, for example, can set forth how the holocaust didn't happen and pass it off as truth. Oprah can say that 73% of Americans want to ban assault rifles and pass it off as truth. NAMBLA can print a newspaper that authoritatively informs readers that it is natural for adult men to have sex with boys and pass it off as truth.

I agree that the media should report factual information and that much of the information available in other forms of media are also providing factual information. But, much, if not most, of the information available elsewhere is not subject to any vetting or quality control whatsoever and is in fact far less reliable than the MSM.

Michael in NH

p.s. Your assertion that the MSM is bent left has been statistically disproven, but I don't think you will "believe" the source given that it is laid out in Al Franken's book, Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right

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Kismet wrote:p.s. Your assertion that the MSM is bent left has been statistically disproven, but I don't think you will "believe" the source given that it is laid out in Al Franken's book, Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right
Yes, well, I preferred Jacob's Ladder but ... surely you are saying that there is a reference in Al Franken's book to a statistical study of the media upon which he expounds and declares valid. You cannot possibly be asking us to believe that Al Franken himself presents valid statistical evidence of the absence of media bias. Having not read his book, and not being likely to anytime before I die, can I get clarification on this?
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Rimfire McNutjob wrote:
Kismet wrote:p.s. Your assertion that the MSM is bent left has been statistically disproven, but I don't think you will "believe" the source given that it is laid out in Al Franken's book, Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right
Yes, well, I preferred Jacob's Ladder but ... surely you are saying that there is a reference in Al Franken's book to a statistical study of the media upon which he expounds and declares valid. You cannot possibly be asking us to believe that Al Franken himself presents valid statistical evidence of the absence of media bias. Having not read his book, and not being likely to anytime before I die, can I get clarification on this?
I do need to see that movie again - it has been a long time and I remember liking it, but really not much about it.

As for the alleged MSM bias, the answer is nope, sorry. Al and his Harvard assistants do the research and present the statistics themselves. As I recall, he does present their methodology and raw data in support of their analysis. I think the research focused on the reporting of the 2000 presidential election.

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Kismet wrote:
Rimfire McNutjob wrote:
Kismet wrote:p.s. Your assertion that the MSM is bent left has been statistically disproven, but I don't think you will "believe" the source given that it is laid out in Al Franken's book, Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right
Yes, well, I preferred Jacob's Ladder but ... surely you are saying that there is a reference in Al Franken's book to a statistical study of the media upon which he expounds and declares valid. You cannot possibly be asking us to believe that Al Franken himself presents valid statistical evidence of the absence of media bias. Having not read his book, and not being likely to anytime before I die, can I get clarification on this?
I do need to see that movie again - it has been a long time and I remember liking it, but really not much about it.

As for the alleged MSM bias, the answer is nope, sorry. Al and his Harvard assistants do the research and present the statistics themselves. As I recall, he does present their methodology and raw data in support of their analysis. I think the research focused on the reporting of the 2000 presidential election.

Michael in NH
Yes, well, Harvard then. It must be so. I should run back and re-read The Bell Curve as well then ... you know, Harvard and all. :?

The problem one has is in being able to define the center point across time. Let's say the ultimate moral authority gives us a definition of the center as 0 and those stories biased right from +1 to +5 and left -1 to -5. If you get two (thousands needed in a real study perhaps but I'm simplifying) stories, a +4 and a -2, you can easily define a new virtual center at +1 and your world looks perfectly in balance doesn't it. Of course the ultimate authority would probably not concur with your findings, but you should be just fine as long as you wrap "Harvard" around it. Given the environment [sarcasm] there's probably little chance of any type of bias entering your study intrinsically.[/sarcasm] Add to this the study being sponsored by a political writer left of Chairman Mao and I can certainly see the fundamental nature of the truth being purveyed. Seriously, does basing a study during an unusual period of political activity even wash with you? I would submit that there is simply no ultimate authority and it is therefore folly to try and define the true balance point.

I will comment no further because I haven't read the piece you're referencing and I'm unlikely to do so. I'll also try to resist the temptation to dismiss African American job applicants for technical positions within my organization because someone from Harvard says I should ... statistically speaking of course.
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Rimfire McNutjob wrote: The problem one has is in being able to define the center point across time. Let's say the ultimate moral authority gives us a definition of the center as 0 and those stories biased right from +1 to +5 and left -1 to -5. If you get two (thousands needed in a real study perhaps but I'm simplifying) stories, a +4 and a -2, you can easily define a new virtual center at +1 and your world looks perfectly in balance doesn't it. Of course the ultimate authority would probably not concur with your findings, but you should be just fine as long as you wrap "Harvard" around it. Given the environment [sarcasm] there's probably little chance of any type of bias entering your study intrinsically.[/sarcasm] Add to this the study being sponsored by a political writer left of Chairman Mao and I can certainly see the fundamental nature of the truth being purveyed. Seriously, does basing a study during an unusual period of political activity even wash with you? I would submit that there is simply no ultimate authority and it is therefore folly to try and define the true balance point.

I will comment no further because I haven't read the piece you're referencing and I'm unlikely to do so. I'll also try to resist the temptation to dismiss African American job applicants for technical positions within my organization because someone from Harvard says I should ... statistically speaking of course.
Oh I agree there are many potential pitfalls with such research (or, heaven forbid, statistics). But, if it is folly to even try to determine a balance point, then it is equal folly to say that the MSM is leftist! As for the timing of the study, first, election periods are hardly unusual, second, given that there are traditionally a left and a right candidate as the primary focus of the news, it seems an ideal time to see if there is skewed presentation by the MSM.

Of course, as you apparently agree it is a bit difficult to discuss when you haven't even read it. It's also a bit tough to discuss when you come to the discussion with such a well established bias. As for the bit about Harvard, I was simply passing along information. I'm sorry, though not surprised given the environs, that you have a problem with one of the top institutions of higher learning in the world. Of course, for Franken's research I imagine it would have been tough for a Jew to get assistants from, say, Oral Roberts University.

The perceived leftist bent of the MSM (at least as far as reporting the news is concerned) is just that - perception. Every time I have bought a new car, I have suddenly noticed that everyone else must have gone out and bought the same car. Reality - no. Perception - yes. In this case people (and by people I mean conservatives) see what they want to see so they have something to complain about.

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JReed wrote:they call us fascists because they are comunists. They can call me what ever they like.

He and his ilk are sheltered dim wits that couldn't find their tail ends with both hands a map and someone to read it for them. They dont get my money at the theaters.
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How did this go from ANYONE wanting to silence a media, whether they believe it or not, to a discussion of what school turns out the most Anti Americans?

This thread is about, AND Robbins comments should NEVER be tolerated by any of us (not the thread, but Robbins comments). The right of free speech has nothing to do with insuring you tell the truth.

It's about YOUR right to voice your opinion. If they CALL it truth, and it isn't, then they stand the possibility of being proven wrong publicly.

That's OUR job and what the original poster was defending.
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Kismet wrote:Oh I agree there are many potential pitfalls with such research (or, heaven forbid, statistics). But, if it is folly to even try to determine a balance point, then it is equal folly to say that the MSM is leftist!
You, and possibly Al Franken, seem to think that the complaint about bias in the MSM is about political reporting. My problem with the MSM is not about those items that have a clear political focus in one direction or the other. Rather, it's with the presentation of the seemingly innocuous items that are apolitical but get a slant applied because the delivering organization can't separate their opinions of the facts from the facts themselves. Of course, my opinion of what is MSM bias is not necessarily that of others here on the forum.
Kismet wrote:As for the timing of the study, first, election periods are hardly unusual, second, given that there are traditionally a left and a right candidate as the primary focus of the news, it seems an ideal time to see if there is skewed presentation by the MSM.
My problem with their selection of an election period, and not just any but the largest that occurs here, is that the the campaigns themselves are spending millions of dollars generating the news about the campaigns and their political positions. If ever there were a time that the data could be tainted, surely it's during a period when vast sums of money are busy trying to taint it ... no?
Kismet wrote:It's also a bit tough to discuss when you come to the discussion with such a well established bias.
My bias? You came in and anchored your logic on Al Franken for God's sake! Are you assuming the unbiased high ground because you confused Al Franken with Ben Franklin or something?
Kismet wrote:As for the bit about Harvard, I was simply passing along information. I'm sorry, though not surprised given the environs, that you have a problem with one of the top institutions of higher learning in the world.
Please. You were taking the position of an Obamist. Yes, the word "Obamist" will join the lexicon for the remainder of this campaign year and assume the position once occupied by "elitist". The word "elitist" will be at Harvard for the remainder of the year taking remedial courses on Applied Condescension. Your Obamist view is further born out in the statements you made versus YK's assertions :
Kismet wrote:So Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, for example, can set forth how the holocaust didn't happen and pass it off as truth.
You and Tim Robbins seem to be worried that we, the average people, will get information from the Internet that is unfiltered and confusing to our primitive minds. For me, hearing Mr. Ahmadinejad rant about the holocaust just helps me position him in my mind as a loon. If I didn't get to hear it, I might think he was a perfectly normal and respectable leader ... having nothing else to go on. It would seem that Tim would rather the MSM tell us how to think about Mr. Ahmadinejad lest we form our own inappropriate opinions. Obamist's are apparently worried that we will go off on our own and think without consulting them first. Why I can already feel myself starting to "cling" to something.
Kismet wrote:Of course, for Franken's research I imagine it would have been tough for a Jew to get assistants from, say, Oral Roberts University.
Religion? I'll not claim that organized religion has any lock on the moral high ground. Witness Reverend Wright and his assertion that our federal government created AIDS to kill off African Americans.? Of course, had he read [sarcasm]that fine Harvard product[/sarcasm] The Bell Curve, he might understand the motivations.
Kismet wrote:The perceived leftist bent of the MSM (at least as far as reporting the news is concerned) is just that - perception. Every time I have bought a new car, I have suddenly noticed that everyone else must have gone out and bought the same car. Reality - no. Perception - yes. In this case people (and by people I mean conservatives) see what they want to see so they have something to complain about.
Wow ... nail on the head. You, Michael, perceive it to be balanced. Your "zero" point, if you will, says that it seems perfectly normal to you. Yet, the increasing popularity of FoxNews tells us something else ... there was clearly a gaping hole in the coverage for a huge number of people who's "zero" lies over there with them. Of course, for those on the left, the popularity is instead an indictment of the level of sophistication of the average FoxNews watcher. [sarcasm]I'm sure the popularity of FoxNews is more a result of hypnosis during Sunday sermons than it is a result of the filling of a void in coverage.[/sarcasm]

I particularly like that part where you assume your "zero" is the absolute "zero" because you would never succumb to seeing what you want to see like all of those conservatives. Rock on in Michael-land.
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handirifle wrote:How did this go from ANYONE wanting to silence a media, whether they believe it or not, to a discussion of what school turns out the most Anti Americans?

This thread is about, AND Robbins comments should NEVER be tolerated by any of us (not the thread, but Robbins comments). The right of free speech has nothing to do with insuring you tell the truth.

It's about YOUR right to voice your opinion. If they CALL it truth, and it isn't, then they stand the possibility of being proven wrong publicly.

That's OUR job and what the original poster was defending.
Bingo! Robbins is whinning because "other sources", such as the internet, can bring attention to the leftist lies that the MSM used to get away with. Kismet, I agree that there are plenty of lies from both sides being expounded on the 'net, but thinking Robbins' comments were decrying this is just a flight of fancy. He is a committed leftist, as is his wife, and whether the movie was great of not, I don't support those who try to destroy my freedoms or my country - period. I can live with the "loss" of missing a movie...
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Wow. I need to apologize for veering off a cliff on this one. My mind gets moving so fast on work items and then I turn around and see what's up on the board and don't put the brakes on. What I need to do is reach into the fridge for a beer instead.

Micheal's posts are always thought provoking and reasonable, even if I don't always agree. In my case, a little too though provoking ... pre-beer anyway.
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Ysabel Kid wrote:I read the quote below in today's edition of "The Federalist Chronicle".
Reading the entire speech that Robbins delivered presents a somewhat different view. It was delivered in satire, pointing fingers at an industry (news/media) that seems infatuated with fatuous sound bytes, instead of in-depth reporting things of worth.

The quip was part of the satire half of the speech.

The full speech:
The Power and Responsibility of our Nation's Broadcasters
April 15, 2008
The Huffingtonpost.com

Hello, I'm Tim Robbins. I'd like to thank you for the invitation to address you here at the National Association of Broadcasters. When I first received the invitation I was a little confused because the last time I had contact with the national media I seem to remember them telling me to shut the hell up.

I would like to start with an apology. To Rush and Sean, and Billo and Savage and Laura what's-her-name. A few years ago they told America that because I had different opinions on the wisdom of going to war that I was a traitor, a Saddam lover, a terrorist supporter, undermining the troops. I was appealing at the time for the inspectors to have more time to find those weapons of mass destruction. I was a naïve dupe of left wing appeasement. And how right they were. If I had known then what I know now, if I had seen the festive and appreciative faces on the streets of Baghdad today, if I had known then what a robust economy we would be in, the unity of our people, the wildfire of democracy that has spread across the Mideast, I would never have said those traitorous, unfounded and irresponsible things. I stand chastened in the face of the wisdom of the talk radio geniuses, and I apologize for standing in the way of freedom.

So when they asked me to come speak to you I said, "Are you sure? Me?" And they said, "Yes."

And I said, "You know, I have a tendency to say things that I believe at the time to be well-intentioned but that are actually traitorous." And they said, "Sure, cool." And then I read the press release and it said, "Mr. Robbins will be speaking about the challenges of new media and delivery systems." Oh, OK. But I just want you to know I'm not sure I know what that **** means.

But it is an honor to be speaking to you here at this years National Association Broadcasting convention even if I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

I owe a lot to broadcast media. I got my start in radio in the early 20s. In my early twenties. And it was television.

But these tremendous inventions have benefited us all.

Radio has come a long way from the early days when family's gathered around the trusty old Philco to listen to such programs as Superman, Sherlock Holmes and Amos and Andy. Thanks to music and sound effects, this magical medium was able to transport families to a place where a man could fly, a brilliant detective could solve the most perplexing of crimes, and two white guys could portray ridiculously offensive black stereotypes for the amusement of millions.

The first broadcast occurred on Christmas Eve in 1906 at Brant Rock, MA, when a man named Fessenden played his violin, sang a song and read Bible verses into a wireless telephone of his own invention. His goal was to find financial backers, but no investor of the day believed that radio could ever replace the most popular leisure activity of the day; listening to the hoot owl while playing the zither as your 14-year-old niece bounced on your knee. Some of you may remember. It was all the rage in the early century.

But soon broadcasting over the radio caught on and zither playing and child molestation were a thing of the past. Radio reached a boom time during the Depression as people begin to listen to and depend on radio to lift their spirits during that catastrophic economic crisis. Shows such as The Bickersons taught people life is not so bad as long as somebody has got it worse.

President Roosevelt became the first "radio president" and his "fireside chats" set the stage for later presidential weekly addresses such as; "chew the fat with Ike," "LBJ's bull session," and George W's "Hooked on Phonics and Strategery Hour."

Radio continued to expand and soon, the public turned to their radios for news, which began to mature during World War II with the regular reports of the bombing of London by Edward R. Murrow, with his "London After Dark" series, where Murrow coined the famous phrase: "Good Night and Good Luck" as well as the lesser known phrase; "Die, you Nazi cocksuckers."

In the post war years, the radio business exploded when 90% of all American's claimed radio was their primary source of news and entertainment. To meet this incredible demand Philco built 6 million radios in 1947. And to provide content for those 6 million radios, we were introduced to some of the greatest drama, comedy and musical entertainment this country has ever seen.

In the '70s, radio took a serious nosedive when Edwin Armstrong invented FM to eliminate the static and noise associated with AM and unwittingly provided a home for easy listening jazz rock, overly dramatic disco songs and 20 minute psychedelic sitar jams.

In the '80s and '90s the FCC, under pressure from the Reagan and Clinton administrations, changed the rules limiting the number of radio and television stations a business entity could own, paving the way for such conglomerates as Infinity broadcasting and Clear Channel to buy up local stations and put them under the umbrella of their larger corporations. Again the community benefited because due to Clear Channel and Infinities' conservative approach, listeners no longer had to be subjected to perplexing controversial subjects, or confusing varied opinion, or alternative rock. And as a bonus these large companies, with the help of Mr. Reagan and Mr. Clinton got rid of that annoying Fairness Doctrine, freeing its listeners from the burden of hearing equally from all sides of the political debate. What a bore.

This new world of conglomeration also brought us back to a simpler, more exciting time with regard to natural disasters and calamities. Your local station would now be broadcasting from a city many miles away and should there be a tornado coming your way you wouldn't know about it until the funnel was in full view. Exciting times.

In the 1950s, television began to replace radio as the chief source of revenue for broadcasting networks. It quickly became apparent that talking about "Old Sandusky Lager" on the radio didn't quite have the same impact as watching a buxom flaxen haired temptress in a skin tight dress play pool in a bar while she drank "old Sandusky Lager." Beer sales skyrocketed.

In the '60s, American television networks began broadcasting in color bringing a new vibrant reality to the content of the day. Suddenly it didn't seem unusual that an astronaut was dating a scantily clad genie that lived in a bottle in his living room.

Television also brought the horror and reality of war into our living rooms airing footage of the war in Vietnam. Building on the mistakes of the past, war is now televised in an easily digestible sanitized version. The current administration has proven that war doesn't have to be upsetting, or sacrificed for, or even reported on at all. We have come a long way, baby.

But what is the state of broadcasting today? Some critics have noted that there is a dangerous lack of diversity and opinion. That may be true, but imagine the nightmare of having to rectify that situation.

I propose a much simpler solution, which I've separated into three prongs, or a Satan's trident if you will.

First, erase all diversity. Thankfully the majority of what is broadcast over television and radio is of two opinions and that feels good. That's simple. But unfortunately there is a tiny minority out here on the airwaves expressing a different view outside of the Democrats and Republicans nexus trying to confuse us all. Can we please shut them up? How expensive could it be to buy Pacifica Radio? These people are driving us apart.

Secondly, let's stay focused on Sex Scandals. Stop with the in depth reporting that gets outside of the sound bite. More sex scandals! Surely with a little more prying, a little more effort we can find more sexual deviants. And trust me, sexual deviancy is something we can all agree on. It's deliciously intoxicating to watch unfold. It's titillating.

The absolute zenith of news, the perfect storm of reporting, the shining city on the hill in news coverage was Lewinsky v Clinton. Now that was fun. We couldn't get enough of that. There were salacious details, semen stains, oral sex. And the president lied. He threatened every notion of marriage and the sanctity of family. He put our country at risk. And when he did lie we held his feet to the fire. We reported on every angle, every permutation of the story. We held hearings, appointed an independent council, led off every newscast for months about the lie, played it until there was no hiding from it, and then held him accountable by impeaching him. It is our moral responsibility to report on the sex lives of the powerful. It is the only thing that kept our country alive at that point. It righted our ship of state. It saved our collective soul. And it was great, juicy fun. Imagine what would have happened to our country's soul if the president lied and nothing was done about it, if impeachment was off the table. Where would we be today if we did not hold our president accountable?

Third, find more racially divisive news and play that constantly. As long as we hate each other we will never be bothered with this gnawing lefty obsession with information. Let's make the purpose of the media salacious entertainment, not information. The more our news outlets and talk radio can distract us the better. We love distraction. When the nattering nabobs of negativity tell you that the economy is falling apart, that gas costs four dollars a gallon, that they are foreclosing on your home, that there is chaos in Iraq, when these propagandists spread this "information" it is our moral responsibility to distract. I don't know about you but show me a starlet without panties getting out of a car and suddenly the world seems like a better place. Show me Knight Rider drunk on the floor eating a hamburger, and I won't ask why my kid has no health insurance. Let's stop burdening people with facts. I bet some of you are saying; "Sure Tim, there's no question, sex scandals, race riots and drunken TV stars are a lot of fun, but shouldn't broadcasters see themselves as part of the larger picture? Isn't there an obligation to honestly report on what is going on, to pursue stories past their headlines? Haven't criminal acts occurred in government? Shouldn't there be accountability for inept policy decisions? Shouldn't someone be fired?" And you know something? I didn't hear any of that because I'm still thinking about that starlet getting out of the car without her panties. You see, that doesn't take any energy. I know exactly what to think about.

Now some of you are concerned with that unrelenting pesky competition. You know, the new technologies; the Internets and satellite radio and television. The problem is there are too many people in this country that take the notion of creativity and invention too darn seriously. Just when one technology is centralized, conglomerated, monopolized, along come new technologies and delivery systems to threaten the good work born of deregulation. Just when we were getting close to a national playlist for our music, satellite technology is threatening to provide music that people actually want to hear. Just when we were close to a national news media, providing a general consensus on what the truth is, along comes the Internets that allow its users a choice on the kinds of news it watches. And the You Tube. My God we've got to stop them. Recently when we were about to enjoy our great national pastime of 'tearing apart a presidential candidate with relentless repetition of ugly things his friend said', You Tube provided the candidates reasoned response and millions watched and responded positively.

Well you here at NAB have the power to stop this dangerous technology. The question is, how? I respectfully suggest that you do what others have done when facing the competition of new technologies. Get compromising information on your enemy and expose them in a sex scandal. Or call them a racist, or better yet a traitor. That not only undermines your competitor, but provides the public with fantastic entertainment.

Of course you can do that. And no one in this current world would fault you for it. It is, after all, where we stand today. In all seriousness folks, let's face it. We are at an abyss as a country and as an industry. And I know that saying we are at an abyss isn't the stuff of keynote addresses but all sarcasm and irony and rude pithiness aside, we are at a critical juncture in this nation's history. This is a nation divided and reeling from betrayal and economic hardships. And you, the broadcasters of this great nation have a tremendous power, and a tremendous potential to effect change. You have the power to turn this country away from cynicism. You have the power to turn this nation away from the hatred and the divisive dialogue that has rendered such a corrosive affect on our body politic. You can lift us up into a more enlightened age. Or you can hide behind that old adage; "I'm just a businessman, I provide what the audience wants." Well, I'm here to tell you that we don't need to look at the car crash. We don't need to live off of the pain and humiliation of the unfortunate. We don't need to celebrate our pornographic obsession with celebrity culture. We are better than that.

Some of you are trying. Some of you are inspiring people towards altruism and compassion with your programming. Some of you are trying to lift the civic dialogue into a more responsible and adult arena. But I know you do so against the odds of ratings and job security. It is really up to the leaders in this room. It is up to you, the scions of this industry to leave behind formulas and focus groups and your own fears of job security. Only with your courage and your vision can we begin to imagine a world of broadcasting where the general consensus of those with real power say "Enough is enough. Now is the time to move away from our lesser selves. Now is the time to stop making money on the misfortunes of others and the prurient and salacious desires of the public. Now is the time to admit and recognize that we aren't just businessmen but the guardians of the human spirit, with a responsibility to the health of this nation. That we can lift this country up with our programming, that instead of catering to the gossips and the scolds and the voyeurs we can appeal to the better nature in our audience, the better nature of what this country is all about."

This is a country filled with people of great compassion and tremendous generosity. This is a country that has survived dust bowls and depressions, that united to defeat Hitler and fascism and communism. We are a resilient people and a tenacious people. And we are ready for change.

Imagine a new broadcasting industry aesthetic, that respecting the better nature of the American people, produces shows that promote strength instead of fear. That does not divide, but inspires, that does not promote hate, but unity, that will not tear the weak down, but build up their strength. Imagine a world of broadcasting where the American people are encouraged to reject despair and distrust. And when they turn their TVs and radios off at night and go to sleep they possess strength, and unity and compassion for those they disagree with. That's not out of the question. You can make that happen. It will be difficult, and will fly in the face of conventional wisdom, and standard operational procedures. But do we have any choice? The road we are on is leading us to a corruption of our former selves. We are better than that. You can help us reclaim our better nature, our perfect union. It isn't necessarily a matter of country before profit, or of patriotism and truth before personal comfort. There could be money to be made in appealing to our better selves. Wouldn't that be great?

And if there isn't and we came out of it a little less rich but more unified and healthier as a nation wouldn't that be something we could all be proud of?
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well, after reading the entire speech, I'm convinced he's more airheaded than I ever thought. He only wants the news to report on happenings in LaLa land, the place where bad things never happen, and people never do wrong, or at least it never gets told about publicly.

He surely put his foil cap back on a nd got in his Green Limo to the airport and flew home.
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I believe that part of the reason that much of America sees the MSM as Left of center is in part because that is how THEY identify themselves. I don't have the links right now, but on multiple occasions I have read articles from the AP showing that when AP reporters register to vote they do so over whelmingly democrat. (If memory serves me, the last article I read showed something like 80% democrat). Now it has been a while since reading that and I may not be exactly right on the numbers but when you factor in that most successful journalism schools are considered very liberal schools, and most college professors are self proclamed liberals, then it should NOT be a stretch to see that those succefully completing journalism degrees are liberal. I recently graduated with an education degree (Dec 2006) from a fairly conservative school (Tenn Tech University, and I have met several militant liberal professors, who knocked my grades because I took positive stances on conservative issues. (Yes I know it was because of that, because they told me so)
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Perhaps this is a matter of semantics. When people say that the MSM is leftist, I assume they mean that the news they report is biased. That is, the decisions made on which news to cover are essentially to advance an agenda. For example, CNN might have a factual story about something good happening in Iraq, but choose not to run it because they want America to dislike the policies of GWB.

I don't think that happens. (And I don't think the people that state as fact that the MSM is left have any factual support to back it up!) I think the decisions they make are based on $$$.

What I do think happens is that the MSM does not generally cover many things conservatives want covered. But, in all the news they report they don't cover things that many people want covered. For example, they tend to report bad news far more often than good news. So, the paper is full of stories about gun violence, but not responsible gun ownership. It is full of sex offenders and drunk driving, but not Eagle Scout projects and Big Brothers/Sisters. That does not mean it is biased - it just means that you want them to cover other news (a proposition with which I certainly cannot argue :))!

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Does anyone remember Charlie Gibson saying that "There is nothing to report from Iraq tonight." There should always be something which could be reported, but not if it is good for your political opponents. Has anyone read Bernie Goldberg's book on how Dan Rather skewed the reporting to only show his viewpoint? Robbins may be seriously short of active neuronal activity in the prefrontal cortex, and he may have his sensory organ cluster inserted in his dorsal orifice, but the MSM Driveby Media are provably giving us their viewpoint disguised as news.
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