.35 Rem questions

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:39 pm

I'm sure there must be some .35 Rem fans here. A local gunshop has a couple of Rem 7600 carbines for sale in this chambering. I know, it's not a lever, but I'm looking to add a little variety to my arsenal.

In a non tubular magazine, can the .35 Rem be loaded with spire point bullets? If so, is there any practical gain in performance?

Post by **Old Savage** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:00 pm

I believe Hornady makes a 200 gr spire point and the Leverevolution ammo is available.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:15 pm

Wow, I bet a 7600 in 35 Rem is a great tool. If I am correct in believing they are the slide action (banned over here, to dangerous) does the forend rattle any?
Nath.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:21 pm

Nath wrote:Wow, I bet a 7600 in 35 Rem is a great tool. If I am correct in believing they are the slide action (banned over here, to dangerous) does the forend rattle any?
Nath.

Yes, the 7600 is a slide action. I'm not sure if the forend rattles on the newer ones. I'll have to pick one up again to find out.

Sorry you can't own pump guns over there. I can't imagine life without an 870.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:22 pm

[does the forend rattle any?]

No louder than the Queen's jewelery.

Post by **Hobie** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:23 pm

I've got a single shot .35 Rem and simply can't find a reason for the spire point over the normal round nose. But, if it fits in the mag it will likely work.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:52 pm

Jason, we can own 870s. In fact they are getting more pops than they ever have been. Gamekeeper recently got him self a 28g. But slide action rifles are more dangerous, they shoot real bullets you know

(dear Lord please give me the strength).
The rattle would be a real concern of mine for hunting etc.
Nath.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:55 pm

Nath wrote:Jason, we can own 870s. In fact they are getting more pops than they ever have been. Gamekeeper recently got him self a 28g. But slide action rifles are more dangerous, they shoot real bullets you know (dear Lord please give me the strength).
The rattle would be a real concern of mine for hunting etc.
Nath.

That's good about the 870s. I was raised on them and have fondness in my heart for them. My dad gave me one for my 12th birthday and it's still my primary small game gun. I've bagged more game with it than anything else.

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:11 pm

I think if I were going to get a 7600, I'd want something like a .308 or a .30-06. I love the .35 Remington but why restrict yourself to it in the 7600?

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:48 pm

Swampman wrote:I think if I were going to get a 7600, I'd want something like a .308 or a .30-06. I love the .35 Remington but why restrict yourself to it in the 7600?

For no other reason than to be a little different.

buckeyeshooter · Post by **buckeyeshooter** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:04 pm

Gentlemen,
not only can you use the more efficient spitzer bullet in this rifle for better downrange performance. There is a chapter in "Big Bore Rifles" with loads worked up specifically for this rifle which exceed the pressure ratings of the lever actions. Remember, the 760, 7600 rifles are made for the likes of the 30-06, 35 whelen and 270 which operate at higher pressures than the lever guns. In fact, the 35 Remington in a 7600 becomes a better performer balistically than the 356 and pushes right up on the .358 winchester. So, if you like this style rifle, this is a useful chambering. I have a marlin in .35 remington and a 30-06 and 35 Whelen in the remington pumps.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:19 pm

I don't get it

How would a guy be restricted with a 7600 chambered for 35Rem

Nath.

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm

In the old days guns tended to be designed around a cartridge so you weren't carrying around a heavy club, but a nice feathery light hunting gun. Now they just design a gun and chamber it in any cartridge the public will buy.

My favorite Marlin is a 336 in .35 Remington. It's a nice light (and handy) rifle.

The 7600 is just way too much rifle for the cartridge. Now if it were a .358 Winchester or a .35 Whelen that would be another story.

kaschi · Post by **kaschi** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:30 pm

I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen that is the absolute Hammer of Thor on deer.

Post by **Hobie** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:39 pm

Swampman wrote:I guess you have to understand cartridges and rifles.
The 7600 is just way too much rifle for the cartridge. Now if it were a .358 Winchester or a .35 Whelen that would be another story.

You might want to rephrase that... I think Nath was pointing out that there's no flies on the .35 Rem.

edsguns · Post by **edsguns** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:43 pm

kaschi wrote:I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen that is the absolute Hammer of Thor on deer.

I've never had a 7600 in .35 Whelen, but...have owned it in a 7400 and 700 Classic, and it is ABSOLUTELY the hammer of Thor. A rifle that has recoil similar to the '06 (same case, after all) but is the finest deer caliber I've ever used (among over 20). You may call it overkill, but I say simply...IT WORKS GREAT!
I do own a 760 in .35 Rem...1st year of production. !952, I believe.

JP_TX · Post by **JP_TX** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:59 pm

~~ RE: 35 Rem ammo fitting in the 7600 magazine?

I have a 7600 in 30-06 aka Long Action. Mag fits, (30-06, 280 Rem, 270 Win, 35 Whelen.) All rounds based on the 30-06 case.

They also make a short action 7600 too. (7mm-08, .308,) etc. Rounds based on the 308 case.

I think they base the 35 Rem on the short action so check the OAL of the 35 Rem vrs the other short action calibers OAL and it should give you an idea how much room you have in the mag.

The 7600 doesn't seem to generous in the throat, so your OAL may be limited by the chamber, though I know for certain that people shoot 35 rem leverevolution out of 7600s. Bet its fun too.

JP

natedontgo · Post by **natedontgo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:33 am

For some time Remington sold 35 rem.ammo loaded with a 150 gr.Corelokt spitzer(Their package #R35R1),,not certain it is currently marketed... and what I have must last me.... Nate

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:12 am

Jason, if you buy a 35 Rem you will walk up on a nice buck eating grass not paying attention.

With the 35 Rem you are always upwind.

marlin shooter · Post by **marlin shooter** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:24 am

JasonW
I have a REM 7600 carbine in .35 rem. Good shooting and handling rifle. It would be a great gun for your local ( I'm sure you've heard of the Benoit's ) While I havn't hotrodded mine as far as reloading, it certainly allow's more bullet choices. I have not tried the leverevolution bullet's in mine. These were a pretty limited run, are these rifle's new you were looking at?
Karl

86er · Post by **86er** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:00 am

I have quite a few customer that are 35 Rem fans. One guy Ken hunts exclusively with a 35 Rem pump that his Dad left him when he passed. Ken has taken deer, hogs, a bear and exotics. PapaBear shot some bear and a blackbuck and aoudad with his 35. The cartridge is a great performer when used within reasonable limits. Don't shoot too far (you decide what that is) and don't tackle something too big or dangerous unless you have a really good plan.

I think you would enjoy the cartridge!

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:12 pm

Hobie got me right. I do guess I understand guns and cartridges. If I had a choice between the usual and the 35Rem I probs take the 35, sometimes shooting a less intense cartridge make for a far more enjoyable experiance.
Any way how heavy is a 7600? Probs less than a lever!
Nath.

buckeyeshooter · Post by **buckeyeshooter** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:04 pm

The 7600 runs 7 pounds naked in 30-06.

Bigahh · Post by **Bigahh** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:25 pm

Have been thinking of a 35 myself. I know where theres a nice 336 for 329.00, a good friend of mine has one, and shoots the Hornady 200 grain round nose. In the 25 years I have known him he has taken a pile of deer with the rifle, and has watched all of them drop in sight. I think a pump would work great if you like it.

t.r. · Post by **t.r.** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:45 pm

This Minnesota buck was felled easily to a modern Marlin in 35. They're excellent carbines that are rarely even mentioned in modern magazines.

TR

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:52 pm

Tr, about ten years ago I bought a Marlin and I had a choice of 30/30 and 35Rem, sometimes wish I had gone for the 35

Nath.

Post by **Old Savage** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:04 pm

86er, what is your opinion of the effective range?

Post by **Old Savage** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:07 pm

Rem 150s are still available.

86er · Post by **86er** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:31 pm

On deer sized game and familiarity I would like to see the range kept to less than 150 yards. If you recall the Summer Safari, we had a lot of small to medium animals shot with 35's. Some took a couple of rounds and others went quite a way before going down. That is not to say they weren't all going to die and be recovered, or that a different caliber would have done better. The point is, the trajectory and impact velocity effect the shooters ability and lethal performance. I am somewhat conservative to keep the odds in the clients favor. The smaller targets, like the blackbuck only offer about a 5 1/2" vital zone.

Elk and similar size would present a larger vital zone and I would be more comfortable with true 150 yard shots with a good marksman behind the gun.

I think for large ungulates and medium african game (zebra and oryx come to mind) this cartridges performance can and should be enhanced by handloading premium bullets.

Post by **Old Savage** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:44 pm

Thanks 86er, I am really only interested in a success oriented conservative opinion and you have the experience from a professional point of view. Thanks again. Mine shoots very well with either Rem 200s or that Hornady Leverevolution. Here are the first five with the Hornady at 100 yds., in the 10 as you can see. Brought this forward in my mind.

DerekR · Post by **DerekR** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:48 pm

I have killed more deer with my Marlin .35 rem than any gun I own because I got one for Christmas at age 14 (1976). I have killed a truckload of deer, but honestly never taken a shot over 100 yards. I have found that a 200 grain Core-Loct behind the shoulder leaves a blood trail that a blind man could follow.

JP_TX · Post by **JP_TX** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:40 pm

Has anyone loaded Hard Cast 200 grn bullets in the 35 Remington? I'm thinking of trying the Beartooth .358 or .359 200 grain GC in my just arrived 336 in 35 Rem.

Advice or experience would be welcome.

1894 · Post by **1894** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:04 am

sobenk wrote:Jason, if you buy a 35 Rem you will walk up on a nice buck eating grass not paying attention.

With the 35 Rem you are always upwind.

There may be some truth to that statement. The first time I carried my late fathers 35 Rem hunting , a black bear walked broadside to me totaly oblivious at around forty yards. So far, that was the only hunting shot I've fired through the rifle , but a very effective one

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:44 pm

Given the date, can anyone tell me what the Remington 7600 is most famous for?

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:48 pm

If I had to guess, is it what's-his-name used to kill MLK?

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:41 am

Given the date, can anyone tell me what the Remington 7600 is most famous for?

No, I know. But I didn't know the date.

It was the guy in the Texas towers. He used a 35 Rem for his distance shots. And shotguns for the people on the stairs. I believe he used something else as well, but I know he used a 35 Rem, and for some long shots, too.

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:16 am

awp101 wrote:If I had to guess, is it what's-his-name used to kill MLK?

Yes, I believe it was a .30-06.

stretch · Post by **stretch** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:12 am

I'd never even heard of the 35 until I bought mine about 10 years ago.
I went looking for a 336 in 30-30, and the shop was all out. The old timer a the gun counter told me he had one in 35 Remington, and that it was
a better deer round than the 30-30. I think he's right! On the eastern
seaboard, the 35 will kill anything that needs killing. A large moose at
long range might call for something a bit stouter, but plenty have been
taken at woods ranges with calibers like the 30-30, 32 Special, (another grand old caliber), and the 35 Remington.

DerekR is right - the 35 will go right through deer at 100 yards - and
the blood trail is not hard to follow with a solid hit.

I got a deal on a bunch of factory 200 gr. Remington stuff some time back, and it shoots great in my Marlin. The 150 gr. not so much, and
I avoid that load. When I go through what I have, I'll have hundreds
of cases to reload - maybe a lifetime supply!

If you want one, buy it. I don't think you'll be disappointed. The
factory sights are, in my opinion, AWFUL - so I put a Williams peep
on the back with their fire sight on the front. Much better! I might
replace the front sight with a Skinner blade. I prefer a square
post to a bead - maybe from shooting too much pistol, eh? $329 is
sounding pretty good these days for one in nice shape.

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:40 am

Just so nobody took me wrong, I love the .35 Remington. I just think the 7600 is too heavy and bulky for the cartridge. The 336 in .35 Remington rocks!

Komrowski · Post by **Komrowski** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:12 am

Because of the limited velocity's of the 35 rem the pointed will not make to much difference. If your a hunter not enough to even worry about, how far will you hunt with the 35 rem? 200 yards would be a hardly ever almost never shot, but the 35 rem could do it quite handily, so with that in mind how much dose the point verse FT help? Not enough to matter. If you load it up to heavy then the brass will break right around the web, and leave the rest of the case stuck in the chamber. To get it out you a 3/8 (I think) tap and get a bite on the case, then tunk out the tap and brass with a cleaning rod. I have extensive experience with the 35 rem and love it. Its on my list of lever guns again. I wish I didn't sell the old one.

t.r. · Post by **t.r.** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:53 am

This is an older Remington 760 in .243 that has toppled well over 100 big game animals. My brother & I shared this rifle until 1972. The stocks were replaced in '90s.

I like levers better but this slide action is too accurate and fun to sell.

.243 is a keeper! 95 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip shoots flat and hits HARD!

Good hunting to you.
TR

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:01 am

The 7600 in .35 Rem got scooped up before I could scrape up the funds.

I have some $$ to spend on a new rifle since I sold my 1895 and did a little penny pinching, but I'm torn.

I'm intrigued by the .35 Rem as a cartridge, and I tend to be drawn to things that not everyone chooses to shoot.

A BLR in .358 win is another possibility

I like the idea of a 7600 and am kicking around the idea of a carbine in 30-06. This would be the most practical choice, but I'm not a very practical person and tend to be drawn to interesting instead.

I was also considering a the Remington 750 in .35 Whelen, but I've read a lot of complaints about them jamming. Remington autos seem to have had that as a problem for ages now.

This will likely be the last firearm I buy for a while as I'm likely changing jobs in the next couple months and will lose about 10k a year in salary, but the work will make me happy.

I want to choose wisely.

Post by **Hobie** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:46 am

Jason,

Want something a little bit odd that you can feed and that will do for all your big game hunting for a while at least with your new job? You've already picked it out, the BLR in .358 Winchester.

Jason_W · Post by **Jason_W** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:07 pm

Hobie wrote:Jason,

Want something a little bit odd that you can feed and that will do for all your big game hunting for a while at least with your new job? You've already picked it out, the BLR in .358 Winchester.

That's kind of what I'm leaning toward right now.

I think a .35 whelen would be over gunning it a little even for the moose around here (not as big as Alaskan moose) but if I do draw moose tag, I'd feel better with the little extra power of the .358.

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