Flintlock nomenclature question

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Flintlock nomenclature question

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What is the thimble?
A close up of the top of the barrel, shows the thinner, plainer stock of the light dragoon, compared to the earlier,heavy model with the swell
in the lower thimble area.
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Re: Flintlock nomenclature question

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The thimbles are the brass tubes the ramrod goes through.
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A-ha! Thanks! :mrgreen:

The quote is from a website that has replicas for sale but the used two different angles on two different pistols so I compare them side by side to find the difference they were talking about.
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You're welcome.. :D
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"compared to the earlier,heavy model with the swell in the lower thimble area." Specifically this is referring to the entry thimble where the ramrod goes completely into the stock. It sounds like a Brown Bess.
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Hawkeye, I'm looking at Dragoon pistols. :mrgreen:

One of my interests is the Napoleonic Wars. And that tends to include weapons that stuck around and saw service after they had been "officially" replaced. These two particular pistols were technically from the American Revolution era but hung around to see service during the Napoleonic Era.
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What's the web site? The BP bug is gnawing at me again. :oops:

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Loyalist Arms and Middlesex Villiage Trading Company

Loyalist is out of Canada so I don't know if their vent holes are drilled prior to shipping. Both places seem to have their fans and detractors but it's hard for me to separate the wheat from the chaff at this point.
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Almost forgot these guys: Track of the Wolf
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From what Ive seen the Indian made copies tend to be a bit rough and proportionally off .

Ive seen a couple that were refinished and looked nice .
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Not a flinter, but this looks like a hoot! :lol:
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https://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_i ... 18f5ke57g5
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Hayseed wrote:From what Ive seen the Indian made copies tend to be a bit rough and proportionally off .
That's what I've heard as well. I think most of us (and certainly myself) are just looking for a nice, representative piece at a decent price versus a spot on copy or an original which usually run a fair bit more.
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Blowing up and killing me would be my worry, not parts interchangeability. :shock:
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cas wrote:Blowing up and killing me would be my worry, not parts interchangeability. :shock:
I've dug around several times over the past couple of years and have yet to find any reports of catastrophic failures. I've seen complaining by re-enactors that don't like/are afraid of the Indian replicas but I have yet to find any threads on the muzzleloading forums mentioning failures.

I'm not saying they are my preferred choice but I think they've picked up a Khyber Pass reputation simply because they are Indian and not Italian repros.
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A lot of muzzle loaders "made in India" are sold in the UK (by Henry Krank) and as far as I know they have to pass British Proof Testing.
I've not heard of any problems with them but then a lot of them are used in reenactments and only fire blanks.
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