Winchester 94 Sporter at the range....

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Winchester 94 Sporter at the range....

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On Friday I picked up a brand new Winchester Model 94 Sporter in 38-55
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This rifle is a thing of Beauty! The Japan Winchester folks really turn out a nicely finished product.

Yesterday I took it to the range to fire for function with it's supplied barrel sights. Performance was outstanding at 25 yards. But I plan on using it for side matches at Cowboy Action Shoots. So the sights needed improvement.

In my junk drawer I had some unknown brand tang sight that wiggled and wobbled and the base wouldn't fit the Winchester.

So out to the shop and my milling machine carved a new base from a block of steel. The sides of the sight was trues and stainless steel washers were fitted ti tighten it up.

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I designed the base to keep the tang safety accessible.

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The rear barrel sight was replaced with a "flip down" type.

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Back to the junk drawer for an old Lyman #17 front sight

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And at 50 yards...The proof is in the pudding....

Using a "Period Correct" benchrest and no rear bag.....

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Oh, and BTW....My Patriots just lost to the freak'n Seahawks?????
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Outstanding Work, and Wonderful SeaChickens.... :P
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Wunnerful. And what's this Seahawk and Patriot thing? Some kinda weapons matchup?
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I thought the Patriot was supposed to shoot down incoming Seahawks, but I guess not :roll:
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Nice gun & great shooting
wish my junk drawer had that kinda junk

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rbertalotto
Nice looking rifle and good work on the sights. I'd say they for sure are stable!

I have a 26" octagon barreled 94 centennial, in 30-30. Do folks think as a rule, the 38-55 are more accurate than the 30-30's? just wondering.

I was thinking of adding a tang sight to it, for long range plinking.
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I just want You to knowthat I am Envious. :mrgreen: I know ! I am not suppose to covet another Mans er - Gun but that is My Dream Gun. Nice work on the sight. At first I thought You milled it out to fit over the Safety but closer exam revealed otherwise. Sweet !!!
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the 38-55 was the "Benchrest" cartridge of the 1800s.

I've had a bunch of different 30-30 rifles from Bolt action to Contenders to levers. All shot good, but none were in the same league as these two 38-55 rifles I'm currently playing with.

Lots of competitors in the BPCR game shoot the 38-55. Very few go to the 30-30..........
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ollogger wrote:Nice gun & great shooting
wish my junk drawer had that kinda junk

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Droolin' here :mrgreen:

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Fifty Yards?

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That closest target board is 50 yds, the farthest one is 200 yds
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rbertalotto wrote:That closest target board is 50 yds, the farthest one is 200 yds
I'm sorry.....I meant was the fifty yard target the distance of your groups?
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Yes...50yds
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ollogger wrote:Nice gun & great shooting
wish my junk drawer had that kinda junk

ollogger
What he said !!! My drawers have real junk; not that neat stuff !

Beautiful rifle !
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Nice rifle. Good shooting!
I have come to expect those kind of groups from my .38-55
Marlin. Same bullet and lube but I shoot with 15gr. 2400.
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rbertalotto,
Very nice rifle! Very good shooting! :D

Speaking of 30-30 accuracy, I have a couple of 788 Remingtons that will shoot honest 1 MOA 5 shot groups with the proper cast bullet loads at 2,200 f.p.s. if I do my part.....of course they do wear scopes.

Back in the 1960's Robert Hutton decided to see what the 30-30 could do in a bolt action target rifle. He posted 5 shot groups as small as 1/4" at 100 yards (!). He was using jacketed bullets.....

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Nice rifle in a great caliber + your excellent workmanship + great shooting!!!
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That's a rifle and load to be proud of. I'd like to have access to your "junk drawer"!

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rbertalotto wrote:On Friday I picked up a brand new Winchester Model 94 Sporter in 38-55
Image

This rifle is a thing of Beauty! The Japan Winchester folks really turn out a nicely finished product.

Yesterday I took it to the range to fire for function with it's supplied barrel sights. Performance was outstanding at 25 yards. But I plan on using it for side matches at Cowboy Action Shoots. So the sights needed improvement.

In my junk drawer I had some unknown brand tang sight that wiggled and wobbled and the base wouldn't fit the Winchester.

So out to the shop and my milling machine carved a new base from a block of steel. The sides of the sight was trues and stainless steel washers were fitted ti tighten it up.

Image

I designed the base to keep the tang safety accessible.

Image

The rear barrel sight was replaced with a "flip down" type.

Image
Image

Back to the junk drawer for an old Lyman #17 front sight

Image

And at 50 yards...The proof is in the pudding....

Using a "Period Correct" benchrest and no rear bag.....

Image

Image

Image

250g Lyman cast bullet, 20-1 Alloy, SPG Lube, 9g Unique, CCI Lg Rifle Primer

Oh, and BTW....My Patriots just lost to the freak'n Seahawks?????
That is a beutifull gun !

I use that same bullet and load in my 1894 winchester that was my Grandfather's. It was built in Jan. or Feb. of 1904. It was pretty leaded up and I am getting it clean now.

Every so often it throws one pretty far out and I thought it may be too much room in the case allowing the powder to get away from the primer. I have some loaded now with a tuft of dacron in them to hold the powder back. I was just wondering if you have done this?

Thanks
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I never recommend any type of filler with fast burning smokeless powders. A good way to ring a chamber.

Unique is extremely easy to ignite. I've never seen any large variences in velocity over a chronograph with Unique even in huge cases like 45-70.
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