Winchester pistol

[hightime]

I found the levergun pistol I've been looking for. What the heck is it?
The barrel is only about 10'' long. Can I asume someone has cut it down and curved the tang and lever?



Owen

[Mescalero]

I predict a visit from BATF.

[Buck Elliott]

It's an all-expense paid ticket to Leavenwirth...

[Griff]

Both of the above... and a mdl 1892 to begin with.

[damienph]

I suggest that you remove the barrel. It's a shame that someone cut it up but you might be able to salvage the receiver.

[Sixgun]

Looks inoperable to me. Rust, bent tang. I can't see the changed geometry of the tang allowing it to work. Its legal. After all, anybody can own a machine gun thats been welded up---key word "inoperable"---and not easily made "operable".---------Sixgun

[Don McDowell]

Looks like someone tried to make a Volcanic out of a 92...

[hightime]

It's a wall hanger at a resturant.

Owen

[Mescalero]

Stay away from it!

[Hawkeye2]

"Inoperable" in the sense that it is beat up, worn out, rusted, has missing parts, will not function, etc. does NOT exempt it from the law. Anyone posesses this gun in this condition is a potential fellon and the BATF does not plea bargin. If the chamber was permenantly plugged and 3 bore diameter holes were drilled in the barrel which was then welded to the reciever and the bolt was welded in the reciever it probably would be legal but not till then. Having it in your possesion with the intention of doing all the above the very minute you get home still leaves you open to prosecution. Even posting about it here probably isn't a good idea as it may start the wrong people looking for it. I don't mean to sound paranoid but the BATF has a long history of abuses against people who are decent law abiding citizens and who have, or in some cases have not, made an error in judgment. If I knew the person who owns it it would discretely tell him to destroy it and then sever contact with him untill after I was 100% sure that he had done so.

[Nath]

Pardon me for being dumb but why is that wrong when most you guy's can go get a TC pistol and or others types?

Nath.

[vancelw]

Pardon me for being dumb but why is that wrong when most you guy's can go get a TC pistol and or others types?

Nath.

Because the rules are dumb. They're designed by anti- gun people instead of people who are pro-gun and knowledgeable about them.
Not being smart, Nath. That's the reason, plain and simple.

Why can I buy some guns without going through an FFL and a later reproduction of the same thing requires one?

[Mescalero]

Nath,
As you know the government types are not the sharpest tools in the shed............
originally it was to prevent turning rifles and shotguns from being cut down and made more concealable.

[hfcable]

doesn't it also depend on when it was made? pre-1898 is not the same. being a 92 it could easily be pre-1898.

[adirondakjack]

If it was originally a rifle, it cannot ever legally be made into a pistol, end of story. Ruger makes a dandy 10-22ISH pistol, but they have to start with a frame serialized as a HANDGUN at the outset....

[Nath]

I get it, same stupid folks run things over here too

You know what the bad guy's over here usually don't give a r,,,,,,,,,,,,don't care if they are generally breaking a law so I errr guess it's just another useless waste of tax money.

N.

[Sixgun]

"Inoperable" in the sense that it is beat up, worn out, rusted, has missing parts, will not function, etc. does NOT exempt it from the law. Anyone posesses this gun in this condition is a potential fellon and the BATF does not plea bargin. If the chamber was permenantly plugged and 3 bore diameter holes were drilled in the barrel which was then welded to the reciever and the bolt was welded in the reciever it probably would be legal but not till then. Having it in your possesion with the intention of doing all the above the very minute you get home still leaves you open to prosecution. Even posting about it here probably isn't a good idea as it may start the wrong people looking for it. I don't mean to sound paranoid but the BATF has a long history of abuses against people who are decent law abiding citizens and who have, or in some cases have not, made an error in judgment. If I knew the person who owns it it would discretely tell him to destroy it and then sever contact with him untill after I was 100% sure that he had done so.

Yep, your probably right. It ain't worth the risk as we all here enjoy our freedoms and "rights". I remember back in the eighties the ATF destroyed this guys house (NRA American Rifleman) looking for an auto-sear. They never found it but still arrested the guy and refused to pay for the damage. But.............if your a crack dealer with 50 kids, with "yo 9" the Feds will get you help. ------------

[Don McDowell]

It's a wall hanger at a resturant.

Owen

I would guess that with it hanging in a public restraunt, was probably bought at an auction, the thing has probably been subject to a number of law enforcement scrutiny, and surely doesn't warrant the internet histryonic's we are seeing here.
There's a pretty fair chance it was declared legal when the NFA of 1938 came about and folks had all sort of firearms in their closet that makes some folks whizz down both legs today...

[Hawkeye2]

The 38 changes to the NFA may have made it legal but it would have to have been registered at that time and the chain of Federal paperwork kept current with each change of ownership.

Congress took a look at the TC offerings, had a laugh over them and moved on. This is probably the only time in the 20th. century they showed common sense.

[Bridger]

What are y'all freakin out about? Remember, this is a free country, errr, well, .......................