Update: Marbles Tang Sight Not Vertical - Not Lever Gun

InTheWoods · Post by **InTheWoods** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:00 pm

I mounted a new Marbles tang sight on my Winchester 62a recently and noted that the very top of the sight leaned about 1/8 inch to the rear of vertical. It still worked fine, but offended my sense of 'squareness.' I called Marbles and they told me to send it back for fixing. I just received my sight back (actually a new one, I think) and it has exactly the same slight rearward lean.

I spent some time today looking at various photos of tang sights (various makes) on rifles and noted that many have this lean and are not quite vertical. What about those in your collections? How normal is this? Should I sent the sight back again? Thoughts?

Update: I have been e-mailing back and forth with Marbles and they are being great. The sight is going back again tomorrow, along with a tracing of the tang and barrel lines. Using the angle the two create, they should be able to make the setup perfect. Keep you posted.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:04 pm

I only have a Lyman #2 and a Smith, both sit at almost vertical... leastways as far as my eye can tell. The Smith has a small allen screw that can adjust it so it will sit vertically. Yes, I would send it back again, and ask them to verify that the one they sent is for your gun.

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:13 pm

There's a 62A with Lyman tang sight on Gunbroker right now.. one picture from the side looks like you describe.. not quite verticle.. may be it will be okay.. shoot it.. won't wear it any looking through it.. (I used to tell my customers that they could be the first person to ever look through this new window, after I installed it..) Used to do home remodeling..

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:32 pm

InTheWoods wrote:I mounted a new Marbles tang sight on my Winchester 62a recently and noted that the very top of the sight leaned about 1/8 inch to the rear of vertical. It still worked fine, but offended my sense of 'squareness.' I called Marbles and they told me to send it back for fixing. I just received my sight back (actually a new one, I think) and it has exactly the same slight rearward lean.

I spent some time today looking at various photos of tang sights (various makes) on rifles and noted that many have this lean and are not quite vertical. What about those in your collections? How normal is this? Should I sent the sight back again? Thoughts?

I had one Marbles for a Marlin 1894 that was like that. It DID matter when using the smallest aperture as the hole looked oval and not round. So I carefully measured the error, wrote a detailed note and sent it back. They fixed it.

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:47 pm

why not try a little shim under the lower part of the sight it should set up straight then.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:05 pm

Find yourself an original Lyman. You can loosen the screw on the side and make it sit wherever you want it to. Send Marbles back their junk. Its a crying shame the junk they make and then sell it for $125-$150, or about the same price an original sells for.

Or you can do what JerryB says and make a shim. I've done this lots of time and in fact, I did one last weekend. I use leather, but wood will also work. Just cut it out for the same size as the base, then sand it on an angle to get the right degrees of "shim". I use a little Grizzly belt sander.

The leather thingy also works great for sights when you don't have enough elevation. I'll get 1/4" leather and cut that baby out. On original Winchesters, I'll grease up the tang area real good to keep it from rusting as leather absorbs moisture.---------------Sixgun

InTheWoods · Post by **InTheWoods** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:16 pm

I am considering sending it back to Marbles one more time. A shim would have to be pretty thick and unsightly to make the sight totally vertical.

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:07 pm

it will certainly throw off your long distance shooting.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:26 pm

If it sets to the same place whenever you flip it up to shoot, it really doesn't matter whether it is 'vertical' or not.

hightime · Post by **hightime** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:32 pm

It matters to me. It's a lot harder to see though the peep if it isn't perpenticular to the sightline, at least with a target peep.

Owen

InTheWoods · Post by **InTheWoods** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:44 pm

Update: I have been e-mailing back and forth with Marbles and they are being great. The sight is going back again tomorrow, along with a tracing of the tang and barrel lines. Using the angle the two create, they should be able to make the setup perfect. Keep you posted.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:28 am

Much ado about nothings. tI could be the tang of your rifle that is the problem and not the sights. Just use a shim that can't be seen and go whistling about your business.