OT - Feds Prosecuting Kansas Guide Outfit

[Rimfire McNutjob]

Thought this was an interesting read ...

Feds Target 60 Hunters in Kansas.

My bad. Link fixed.

[TedH]

Your link goes to a Gunbroker auction.

[deerwhacker444]

Here's a Link..!

What in the world is going on up in Kansas....?

[jkbrea]

I don't condone poaching but why are the feds investigating and not Kansas? It seems they should be prosecuting terrorists or something.

[rimrock]

The Feds are involved, according to the article, because of alleged interstate transport of poached deer. The Feds have a statute concerning lying to federal agents to assist them that is not usually available to states. So, most likely they'll get a few caught in some lies, plea bargain, and get stronger testimony against the main violators, who ever that happens to be.

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[AJMD429]

I'm certainly not for unethical or unsafe hunting, but somehow I'm skeptical that our nation's founders stayed awake nights worrying that the Constitution wouldn't cover things like deer poaching, pasteurizing milk, and what font size and color of ink are 'acceptable' to have on an advertisement a drug rep hands a doctor.

Do you think our nation will ever truly be free again...?

[willygene]

they deserved it i have known them all my life and delt with them as a law enforcement officer her at home they live about 5 miles from me and i hope they put them under the jail.

[Mac in Mo]

That first lawyer that was quoted sounds like a real pinhead. He must have come very cheap. Kevin

[Streetstar]

they deserved it i have known them all my life and delt with them as a law enforcement officer her at home they live about 5 miles from me and i hope they put them under the jail.

I dont doubt this at all ---- i have met "hunting guides" like this before. They make the other 90% who do an ethical, humane job look bad

[Pete44ru]

It irks me to no end, that people participating in some illegal activities are constantly referred to as "hunters" and/or "guides" - which IMHO unfairly dis' every ethical guide/hunter extant.

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[Rimfire McNutjob]

I was concerned because the title insinuated that the Feds are pursuing the hunters as well as the guides. I guess it depends on the offense as to whether the hunter should have known that it was against the law in that particular state to take some particular action. I know, a hunter is supposed to know all of the laws in the state in which he intends to hunt. But I would bet that a lot of hunters rely on the advise of the guides in this regard.

I reminds me to recent Teg Nuggent flap.

[Hobie]

Poachers are often known but manage to avoid prosecution or conviction due to a lot of different little things. Some families have been doing it for generations. These same families have now expanded to distributing meth and some other things... Reading this, I'm thinking these POACHERS deserve what little they'll get.

[Blaine]

Not a bunch of people who deserve any quarter. Do Libertarians really support No Game Laws as a freedom to be touted?? You're not making a very good case for converting Republicians, Dude

[Hobie]

Blaine,

I think we're in agreement that they need to have the book thrown at them. Unfortunately, IME, poachers don't get squat compared to all the problems they cause. It doesn't matter, give 'em all you can whenever you can.

PS - taking their trucks and guns doesn't do diddly, they just get more, legally or not.

[choctaw]

It irks me to no end, that people participating in some illegal activities are constantly referred to as "hunters" and/or "guides" - which IMHO unfairly dis' every ethical guide/hunter extant.

My thoughts exactly. Criminals would have sufficed nicely.

[AJMD429]

Yep. I don't think you'd find any 'sympathizers' here, other than the comment above that some of the 'hunters' (vs. 'guides') may have indeed been told that they were not violating the law, when in fact they were.

My only issue with it is just the concept that everything these days has become a 'federal' issue, and although the offense may be a crime, and offenders may need appropriate punishment, if it isn't necessary to be a federal issue, I think it should be left to the states, and if the state needn't do it, leave it to the county, and if the county needn't be involved, leave it to the family. We've seen numerous examples of how turning that upside down hasn't been a good thing...

I think the state police, state game wardens, state courts, state prisons, and so on are more than capable of dealing with issues like this. If not, some changes need to be made in the state!

[rimrock]

Too bad we can't use SSS for poachers. Actually, I would put them out in the sun staked out over an ant hill if I got to impose punishment upon a finding of guilty, then leave 'em for the buzzards.

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[Nate C.]

Don't be messin' around with the game warden!