saddle ring and stud

[rodeo kid]

Does any one know where to find a gold colored saddle ring and stud for a post 64 Winchester 94? mine is made in 1966 and has a case colored receiver with some engraving. The best I could find out it is called an antique model. It has a blued ring that someone brazed together and I would like to find the correct one. Thanks, all I could find online were blued ones.

[Malamute]

I believe your gun originally had a brass ring and stud, which isnt quite a bright as gold, but of course a gold one would work.

If you havent found one by June, get back to me. I know where there will likely be some in June.

[gamekeeper]

My 1967 Antique Model has a blue saddle ring and no brass on the loading gate.

[Griff]

Try umrich Gun Parts and search for what you're looking form I've seen them, but not for a while... their parts selection is a little thin.

You could also try E-Bay.

[JOHNNY WACKO]

Try umrich Gun Parts and search for what you're looking form I've seen them, but not for a while... their parts selection is a little thin.

You could also try E-Bay.

Thats numrich gun parts but they don't have any in stock.I buy from them for years now and they don't have much in stock for the winchesters any more.
Ebay dont have any at this time ether.I watch both palces pretty regular and havent seen any in a while.They have a brass one for the 94 22 brake down on there now .its the only brass one on there also.
there is brass and gold loading gates on gunbroker rite now,i have them saved if you want a link let me know.There at about $22.. now.

[Pete44ru]

Original issue, on the Model 94 Antique .30-30 carbine were gold-colored saddle ring/stud, and loading gate.

It COULD be that a few sneaked out of the factory with blued parts when the gold parts were temporarily out-of-stock, but it's more likely it was switched out at one time or another.

I personally know of one unscrupulous dealer who did so on alot of commemoratives, until he found out the rings weren't real/solid gold.

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[COSteve]

Bob's has one listed as #3 on the right side about 3/4 the way down HERE.

[Sarge]

Bob's has one listed as #3 on the right side about 3/4 the way down HERE.

Do you happen to know if those require drilling/tapping a blind hole in the receiver, or simply replace an existing screw?

[Malamute]

Sarge, standard guns in the later models didnt come drilled and tapped for the ring. The ones that came with them used a hole specific to the use. They arent hard to do tho. The hole is drilled all the way thru, so you don't have to deal with bottoming taps, just a standard one. The action should come apart tho to keep chips out.

[Sarge]

Thanks, Malamute.

[jlchucker]

The gold-colored saddle ring was standard on those "antique" models of that era. Various "comemmoratives" were produced by Winchester in that time period, and most had some form of saddle ring--usually black, but some were plated in various ways. I had one that came with my "Classic" rifle--standard practice for the "classics" was to include the saddle ring and stud in a little plastic bag to be attached to the rifle/short rifle if the customer so chose. The receivers were drilled, tapped and plugged at the factory. Once on a whim, a couple of years ago, I removed the saddle ring from my 1980's era trapper model and tried it on my Classic rifle to see if it would fit. Sure enough--just like store-bought! I doubt if the factory dirilled and tapped any Model 194's of any flavor during that era or later for any saddle ring with any other thread size. That would have been truly idiotic from a production control standpoint. Maybe you can find a brass-colored one if that's what you really want if you scour the spare parts sources for saddle rings from comemmoratives.

[Pete44ru]

FWIW, There's only two different Model 94 saddle ring stud thread sizes, one for pre-64 & the other for all post-64's.

BTW - The post-64 saddle ring was a direct replacement for one of the side cover screws on my standard Henry H001 .22 levergun.



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[jphi13]

Edit : Moved on new topic

JPhi

[Pete44ru]

Hello jphi13 - Welcome to our neighborhood. I hope you stay awhile & enjoy yourself.

About that rifle - I have no clue, since Winchester made models for the European market that differed in trim and stock details from the stateside versions, and didn't see fit to advertize the details.
In some cases, like that, it's best to hear it from the horse's mouth, and contact Winchester.

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[rodeo kid]

COSteve, thanks for the tip on Bob's gun parts, I did find it there and have ordered one, the Kid.

[Hobie]

Original issue, on the Model 94 Antique .30-30 carbine were gold-colored saddle ring/stud, and loading gate.

It COULD be that a few sneaked out of the factory with blued parts when the gold parts were temporarily out-of-stock, but it's more likely it was switched out at one time or another.

I personally know of one unscrupulous dealer who did so on a lot of commemoratives, until he found out the rings weren't real/solid gold.

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He must have been a dumb so and so...

[JB]

Original issue, on the Model 94 Antique .30-30 carbine were gold-colored saddle ring/stud, and loading gate.

It COULD be that a few sneaked out of the factory with blued parts when the gold parts were temporarily out-of-stock, but it's more likely it was switched out at one time or another.

I personally know of one unscrupulous dealer who did so on alot of commemoratives, until he found out the rings weren't real/solid gold.

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I've also seen a few folks switch the parts out because the cheap plating had started to peel off.