45-70 pistol varmint pistol :-) only six pounds

[preventec47]

he says it feels like a 357 mag when shot ? ? ?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/video/player ... =12&vid=63

[nemhed]

I had a Contender with a 45-70 barrel, it did not feel like a .357!

[Doc Hudson]

As many of y'a;; now, i'm no great fan of rifle caliber handguns. The only .45-70 handgun I've ever shot was a14" T/C Contender. IIRC I shot some standard factory 350 gr. JHP's. Recoil was stout but easily controlable.
i don't rmember the name of the revolver, but i remember when that .45-70 handcannon was introduced in the late 1980's. As the fellow said it was virtually hand made. looks as if they are getting set up to mass produce these revolvers. i don't want one, but I wish them well.

The spokesman, a very ill-prepred spokesan I might add,said the revolver weighted six pounds. My old Marlin Guide Gun weighted 6.75 pounds. Recoil in that rifle was pretty darned stout. With 350 or 405 grain factory loads it was not uncomfortble, but it is much heavier than a .357 Magnum. Now if the man had specified:
'Shooting this hand cannon with 350 grain standard velocity factory lods is no more painful than shooting Cor-Bon .357 magnum 180 gr. LFN cartridges in a 12-ounce S&W Model 360."
I'd probably believe him.

I'm sure the gentleman in the video is very knowledgeable about the revolver, but IMO the company would do well to either replace him with someone who is a more polished speaker, or make him rehearse his presentations rigorously. The man missed lots of opportunities to promote his product.

[FWiedner]

I have fired a couple of the 10" .45-70 BFR revolvers, and while it's an experience, it ain't that bad. Just get a good grip, there's a little bit of muzzle lift. I was easily able to rid the world of several pesky milk jugs at 100yds.

I'd take one if somebody was givin' it away.

I believe that BlaineG owns a 7.5" BFR.

[Blaine]

I have fired a couple of the 10" .45-70 BFR revolvers, and while it's an experience, it ain't that bad. Just get a good grip, there's a little bit of muzzle lift. I was easily able to rid the world of several pesky milk jugs at 100yds.

I'd take one if somebody was givin' it away.

I believe that BlaineG owns a 7.5" BFR.

I had a 10". 405s @ 1400fps or so are stout, but not uncomfortable. I wore a thin leather glove only because the trigger guard would bite the heck out of my finger. I traded it for a nice 1895 in 405. I will have to get another one pretty soon, but a 7.5", and maybe have that one cut down a little and Magna-Ported.

[AJMD429]

The spokesman, a very ill-prepred spokesan I might add,said the revolver weighted six pounds. My old Marlin Guide Gun weighted 6.75 pounds. Recoil in that rifle was pretty darned stout.

I've fired a 12-gauge pump that was just one inch over legal overall length and barrel length, that had a grip kind of like a single-blade axe handle that was only barely longer than the tang, and even with SLUGS it was actually not unpleasant, if you used a two-hand 'Weaver' hold and stance. The same gun with a shoulder stock kicked very unpleasantly. I think the arm absorbs much of the recoil, IF the guns are similar weights. Now the thought of a Contender or Encore with full-house .45-70 loads just plain scares me...

[KCSO]

I have shot one of those with 300 grain smokless loads and it is indeed like a 357. Hold out your hand and shoot it with a 357!
Well maybe not that bad but not my cup of tea.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

He says the frame is made of "magnesium bronze" but I'm pretty sure he means "manganese bronze". Magnesium might imply to people that it is meant to be lightweight. Manganese Bronze is a lot of things but "light weight" is not in that list.

[AJMD429]

... I love poetry, long walks on the beach, and poking dead things with a stick.

I just noticed the tag-line. I like it...

[Batman1939]

I believe what KCSO says about how it might feel to shoot such a handgun. I guess I don't get the point; if you like handcannons, more power to you. I have a 7X30 T/C Contender and it can be a bit of a snorter with heavy handloads. Or maybe I'm just a wimp.

[Blaine]

I believe what KCSO says about how it might feel to shoot such a handgun. I guess I don't get the point; if you like handcannons, more power to you. I have a 7X30 T/C Contender and it can be a bit of a snorter with heavy handloads. Or maybe I'm just a wimp.

I've always found that the high pressure fast loads smart more than the heavy bullet low pressure loads. Trapdoor loads pack a huge wallup, but are whimpy for recoil out of a BFR.

[Doc Hudson]

BlaineG.

how much does that Big Freaking Revolver weigh?

Does it weigh more or less than a Guide Gun?

[O.S.O.K.]

I tend to avoid the extremes in firearms. Really light and small rifles and really big and heavy handguns.

My Win 94's weigh about 6 1/2 pounds...

I'm not dissing this or any other big arsed revolvers, just saying they're not for me. Feel that way about the S&W X Frames too. Just too much of a good thing.

[Batman1939]

BlaineG. You make an excellent point. Kinda like the difference between my .54 cal Renegade (with Black Powder) and my 7mm RemMag. I am aware of that difference, should have made the connection to the handgun comparison. At my age things don't always tie-in logically. Thanks!

[Blaine]

BlaineG.

how much does that Big Freaking Revolver weigh?

Does it weigh more or less than a Guide Gun?

My 45-70 10" was about a few RCHs under five pounds....Not a one hander for me at all.

[Batman1939]

Blaine G. I'm not familiar with your units of measurement (RCH), though I can think of some words that might apply. Is this abbreviation one that should not be used in its entirety in polite, mixed company? If RCH stands for some legitimate units, I'd like to hear it. Thanks.

[Hillbilly]

Batman,
I am pretty mixed up polite society... RCH is a standard measurment... but decorum precludes me from citing the standard.

Most of us are working class blue collar kind of Joe the Plumber kinda guys (stuck in the 1950's lol) ... but we are not prudes.

Years ago I found if I ignore "things" that offend me as minor points in passing, they go away quickly.

Back on track? Good.

45/70 pistols... at six pounds need a jack and jockey cart to haul around dont they?

[Chas.]

I also have one of the BFR's in 45-70. Being a single-action and can "roll", it's not bad. If it was a double-action, it'd break your wrist. I can't hit quite as good with it as my .357 or .44 Rugers, but I'm working on it and it won't be long.

EDIT: I just weighed my big ten-inch (man, I like the sound of that) and it weighs 4 lb 11oz w/factory grips and unloaded.

[Batman1939]

Hillbilly, I think you may have misconstrued my question; I was in no way offended. Just seeking honest clarification. Guess that miscommunication occurs too easily using this medium--as the moderators have pointed out on some other recent threads.

[Hillbilly]

batman 1939... good... we are on the same page.

RCH's run around .003"... about the same as read head hair... just a bit curlier.

Out.

[Borregos]

I have shot one of those BFR's in 45-70, enjoyed it but would not buy one.
Just figured out the RCH thing

[crystal river charli]

I do not know about the 45-70, but I would love to have one in 30-30.

Charlie

[shawn_c992001]

I have shot a 15" Encore barrel in 45-70 and it kicked pretty good! About like a .454 Casull Super Redhawk. The only thing I have shot that kicked harder was a 30-06 Encore pistol barrel with 180gr Hornady Light Magnum ammo, freakin' OUCH!!!

[Blaine]

A Red Curly Hair.....gosh! Red hair is the finest, then Blond and brown, then black. I'm not entirely sure why that would be impolite.