300 Savage Load Info
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300 Savage Load Info
Has anyone ever loaded 150 or 170 grain Flat Point bullets (like for 30-30) in the 300 Savage? What were the results on game?
I'm thinking of using 170 gr Speer Flat Points loaded to 2540 fps. I think they'll smack hard, penetrate adequately and expand very well.
Any other favorite loads for the 300 Savage?
I'm thinking of using 170 gr Speer Flat Points loaded to 2540 fps. I think they'll smack hard, penetrate adequately and expand very well.
Any other favorite loads for the 300 Savage?
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
I haven't tried the flat points yet, but I am working on some Hornady 165 spire points. I have come down to 2 powders, IMR 4895 and RL 15. Not max loads (1 grain off listed max) but both seem to group nice in my rifle. I have always had good luck with middle weight bullets ie 140 gr in 270, 165 in 308 win and 30-06 and 225 gr in 35 Whelan. Maybe someone has tried the 170 fp in their 300 savage.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
I've read of that being done in the .308 and .30-06 and I imagine that it has been done in the .300 Savage. They should expand right well started at 2540 considering that they do well started at 2100.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
I was wondering why you would want to do this? Seems like you'll be cutting the range and energy down.
My favorite load for the 300 Savage in my M99's is 43 grains of RL15 over the 165 grain Hornady Spire point. Shoots great in both guns and will shoot 3/4" in the 1951 model. This is with Winchester brass and CCI 200 primers. Of course work up to it in your gun if you use it. I went to 44 grains but it shot better at 43 and was good on deer and antelope. Brass is lasting well and it doesn't show any pressure signs in either rifle.
My favorite load for the 300 Savage in my M99's is 43 grains of RL15 over the 165 grain Hornady Spire point. Shoots great in both guns and will shoot 3/4" in the 1951 model. This is with Winchester brass and CCI 200 primers. Of course work up to it in your gun if you use it. I went to 44 grains but it shot better at 43 and was good on deer and antelope. Brass is lasting well and it doesn't show any pressure signs in either rifle.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
I'm not sure if I can help you with this or not but here goes. I shoot a 180 cast gas checked flat point in my 99. I use it because where I hUNT YOU CAN'T SEE FARTHER THAN 60 YARDS. I haven't gotten to shoot anything with it though so I can't tell you what it's like on game but it is way accurate. Sorry I can't help more than that. I decided I will have bullets no matter what happens so I am trying to develope cast loads for everything(within reason) I own and bought close to a ton of wheel weights and pure lead. Now if I can keep buying gaschecks I might be somewhere. Tom
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
180 hdy RN pushed by 38.5 of IMR4895 works great on elk in dark timber just got some RL15 will have to work up a load. danny
Re: 300 Savage Load Info
IMO it will work quite well. I load the Hornady 170 Flat Point in my 308 with Varget. I started with a 10% reduced load off the 165 grain listing, and went from there. I think it will work well for you.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
John Barsness wrote a "user's guide" to the 99 a few years ago in Rifle magazine, and he said the 170 was an excellent black timber load, as it "really whops game". 38 - 40 grains of IMR 4064 should nail it for you.
I'm thinking you could use an inexpensive bullet like the Remington Core-Lokt for deer and practice, and something like a Nosler Partition for hog hunting. They should shoot really close to the same place, plenty close enough for timber ranges.
Be sure and let us know how it works for you.
I'm thinking you could use an inexpensive bullet like the Remington Core-Lokt for deer and practice, and something like a Nosler Partition for hog hunting. They should shoot really close to the same place, plenty close enough for timber ranges.
Be sure and let us know how it works for you.
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
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I'm pretty much agree with John B. on loads for the .300. His load work seems well thought out and appliations well defined in his articles. His data points to 150's and 165's as the most practical bullets for the .300 Savage. I'm doubt there is any practical advantage to using the 170 gr flat or RN as opposed to any one of the many excellent 165's out there for almost any application. By John B's own admission, the 170's may not deliver accuracy on par with 150's or 165's in some rifles. I think his experiments and use of the 170's might have been really just that; experiments. The fact that 170's work with authority on deer size game at speeds a bit higher than the .30/30 delivers (300-500 FPS) is interesting, but not really suprising. Might be useful if you ever had to use 170 grain .30/30 bullets for your Savage in a real frugal "frontier" reloading scenario.
I'm still dabbling with the .300 Savage myself, having yet to determine the "ultimate" load; but something tells me that if a 150 grain spitzer isn't quite enough bullet for the game you intend to pursue, the 165 grain weight is likely going to be the most logical next option. Even a low tech cup and core bullet would be a valid choice since the .300 Savage tops out at around 2600 FPS with 165's. AW
I'm pretty much agree with John B. on loads for the .300. His load work seems well thought out and appliations well defined in his articles. His data points to 150's and 165's as the most practical bullets for the .300 Savage. I'm doubt there is any practical advantage to using the 170 gr flat or RN as opposed to any one of the many excellent 165's out there for almost any application. By John B's own admission, the 170's may not deliver accuracy on par with 150's or 165's in some rifles. I think his experiments and use of the 170's might have been really just that; experiments. The fact that 170's work with authority on deer size game at speeds a bit higher than the .30/30 delivers (300-500 FPS) is interesting, but not really suprising. Might be useful if you ever had to use 170 grain .30/30 bullets for your Savage in a real frugal "frontier" reloading scenario.
I'm still dabbling with the .300 Savage myself, having yet to determine the "ultimate" load; but something tells me that if a 150 grain spitzer isn't quite enough bullet for the game you intend to pursue, the 165 grain weight is likely going to be the most logical next option. Even a low tech cup and core bullet would be a valid choice since the .300 Savage tops out at around 2600 FPS with 165's. AW
Re: 300 Savage Load Info
I'm looking at 40 gr of H4895 for 2450fps with the Speer 170 gr FP. Speer says it will expand from 1750 fps and stay together up to 2250 fps impact. The crimp groove and slightly short bullet help with the cycling in my semi-auto rifle. I have 100 of these bullets that might as well be put to use. Now for the field testing.....
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Re: 300 Savage Load Info
Please post the results Joe! I am interested.Now for the field testing.....