32-40 is a shooter with some load info. New Pics Added

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FLINT
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32-40 is a shooter with some load info. New Pics Added

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Thought I would share as there seems to be a few 32-40 posts lately.

I got this gun back in 2005, when my uncle passed away. It was in really rough shape with quite a bit of pitting on the outside and the end of the barrel looked like it had been cut off with a bolt cutter. However, the inside of the barrel really didn't look bad. So I figured it might be worth saving as a shooter. There is a whole post somewhere with my adventures getting it straightened around so I won't go into that now. So, long story short, right before thanksgiving, I took it to the range with some rounds that I'd loaded up to see if it would shoot without blowing up. and it did. and pretty darn well.

All of the bullets I used, were from Montana bullet works. Its the RCBS 82024 FNGC bullet sized to .322. That bullet is really for the 32WS, but it was the only one that had a gas check and I've heard from others that it works well in the 32-40 as well. Since the crimp groove is in the wrong place for the 32-40, I just seated all of the bullets down to the max length of 2.50 inches and crimped them good with the lee factory crimp die (that was special made for this caliber). I weighed the bullets and they turned out to be 183 grains. I used new winchester 32-40 brass and cci primers.

I first tried 16 grains of 5744. Those shot fine and read about 1350 through the chrony. Next was 17 grains of 5744 - still good and went through a little over 1500fps. Finally I had loaded some with 18 grains which still shot fine - no pressure signs and shot 1577fps (that's just over 1000 ft/lbs). Accurate arms' literature says you can go up to 20 grains with a 170 grain bullet, but I don't know if I want to go any higher with this heavier bullet - 18 should do the job.

I also loaded some up with 24 grains of 3031 and those shot well as well and ran about 1550fps. I loaded one round with 25 grains of 3031, but decided not to try it that day. Again sources say 26 grains is max with a 170 grain bullet, but 25 grains filled the case completely to the base of that long lead bullet, and I wasn't feeling brave. I might back down and try some at 24.5 first. Although 24 grains is probably plenty.

I didn't really shoot for groups that day as I was just seeing if the gun would shoot at all and if my loads would shoot on the paper. At the end, I had 5 rounds left with 16 grains of 5744, so I shot them all into a group at 50 yards - and from a not super steady rest and with open sights I put 5 rounds into a very nice little group probably around an inch or so and certainly less than 2".

So this gun will work fine for deer I believe, ugly or not.

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Here is a pic of the gun to show the pitting on the outside. The bore has been lapped and the muzzle now has a nice crown and is as bright and shiny as can be, and seems to shoot these lead pills nicely. Oh yeah, the barrel was originally 26" but is now 20" - so the velocities above are from a 20" barrel.

Disclaimer - my rifle was made in 1925 and does have the nickle steel marking on the underside of the barrel - so these loads are fine in my gun, but may be too strong for rifles with the softer steel they commonly used in the 32-40 and 38-55.
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The pitting and beat up nature gives it a nice antique look IMO. Looks ancient, in a good way.
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Flint,

I'm tickled that old rifle shoots well. What is that finish? Looks like the color of molly coated bullets.

I'd be thrilled to take it hunting. If it could only tell it's stories, wow.

Joe
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I am very pleased as well, I can't wait to take it hunting.

The finish is duracoat. When my cousin recovered the rifle, he put naval jelly on it to stop and remove the rust, but it was left on so long that the gunsmith had a really hard time getting it off, and by the time he got it off, he said he couldn't get it to take a blue at all, so he said that duracoat might be the only option. and since it couldn't really get much uglier, I said that was fine.

I have 3 lever guns and this one is really comes up the quickest and feels the best and steadiest at aim. I love the crescent butt plate as well.
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Good to see an old piece up and running again, as it should. And, as far as how it looks, it only matters to you. In your pictures it looks fine.
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Well, just for fun, I got the target out of my trunk and measured the group - it was 1 1/8" - not bad

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The vertical shot string is me sighting in the 32 Special. I just put on a williams receiver sight and a millet front sight which was really tall, so I would file some down and shoot, then file more and shoot, until it made it up where it should be.

also, just for fun, here is a lineup of my levergun cartridges 30-30, 32-40, 32WS

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you probably already would know this but the 30-30 is a factory winchester silvertip 150 grain and the 32WS is a factory winchester powerpoint 170 grain.
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Great post,that is a great old rifle and an excellent group! I know where there is a beautiful 32-40 for sale but I must resist.... I don't really need it.... :)
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