OT - Winchester 1907 Autoloading rifle in .351 WSL

[Ysabel Kid]

Hey fellas - does anyone hear own and shoot a Winchester 1907 Autloading rifle? A friend of mine in Michigan was shooting his M1 Carbine at the local range where he belongs when a fella walked over to talk. After a nice discussion on the M1 Carbine, the fellow shooter says, "well, if you like that one, you'll like what I'm shooting". He was shooting a Winchester 1907 Autoloading rifle in .351 WSL (Winchester Self-Loading) caliber. My buddy really enjoyed it. He has found listings for them between $400 and $700. Only problem is the round is pretty much extinct. Of course, that doesn't stop us reloaders - and he's one of them - just makes it a bit more interesting. You can make brass out of .357 Maximum cases.

Figured I'd ask here, for if anyone does own and shoot one, they'd probably have a line on supplies for it.

Thanks!

YK

[cowboykell]

I have one. Buffalo Arms has the brass and bullets. The forearm will usually crack, there is a heavy weight on the operating rod under it. Mine has been professionally repaired. The rifle, 100 brass, 80 bullets, and Redding dies for $500.00 plus shipping & ins.

[allhands]

I have seen them as low as $400 at Cabelas. The 351 wsl is at best an anemic cartridge, and it is not recommended for deer size game. They do look like interesting rifles and would be fun to shoot. I believe they were supposed to be Winchester's response to the Remington Model 8, but Winchester could not develop a round that came close to the 35 Rem in power due to the action they created. You can check american ammo and buffalo arms for ammo/brass. It's relatively expensive, but available last time I looked.....Just my 2 cents.....

[TedH]

The 351 wsl is at best an anemic cartridge, and it is not recommended for deer size game. .....

The 351 WSL will hurl a 180 gr. bullet to 1800 fps, which is the same as many of us here are doing with our 357 Mag carbines and have proven to be very good performers on deer. There is no reason a 351 wouldn't do the same.

[shawn_c992001]

I had a 1910 in .401 Win. brass was easily made from 7.62x39 cases. It was pretty fun to shoot though.

[Buck Elliott]

Lots of those older "anemic" cartridges perform WAY beyond their detractors' published condemnations. The .351 SL is one of those.

I wouldn't want someone shooting at me with one...

[MrMurphy]

Never got to fire one but the gunshop i worked a bit at had, in it's rather hefty collection (6,000 guns, 2,000 on display) four of them in a corner, more or less unnoticed. Since the room had everything from modern Beretta O/Us to original 1849 Colts, I can see why.

I think one was a .401, the rest were .351s. Handled very well, short and compact, always wondered what they'd be like to pull the trigger on.

You guys who have them are lucky!

[Jason_W]

I've always thought a semi-automatic .357 mag carbine would be pretty cool.

I wonder if there would be a market for it again if it was brought back in a "modern" looking rifle with a snazzy, marketable name. maybe the .357 Extreme or .357 Tactical

[Bridger]

I've always thought a semi-automatic .357 mag carbine would be pretty cool.

I wonder if there would be a market for it again if it was brought back in a "modern" looking rifle with a snazzy, marketable name. maybe the .357 Extreme or .357 Tactical

You mean like with a synthetic stock, a laser, and a flashlight hanging on the end or something?

[kaschi]

I'd like to have a 351WSL and would not hesitate to use it on deer if it were permitted here in PA. I have a Model 1910 in 401 WSL and really like it! The recoil isn't bad, maybe like a 44 Magnum in a lever carbine. Have not shot it in a while. I'll bet the 351 is really mild in the kick department.

[Buck Elliott]

The most apparent sensation when firing one of these old Winchesters is the back & forth shuffle of the heavy weight in the foreend. Other than that. they are unremarkable, for the most part.

[kaschi]

It depends on how easily one is impressed that decides if it's remarkable!

[milespb]

YK, Joe Salter.com has 3 1907's listed for sale from $395- $595

[Cliff]

I have read that France bought bunches of the 351's for use in the trenches in WWI. They were very impressed with it. Don't remember the source, numbers involved or what type of ammo they used. Just a bit of trivia.

[kaschi]

Cliff: I think I saw that too on the History Channel. I also believe the 351's with extended mags were (or were going to be) used by the co-pilot to shoot at the enemy pilots?

[airedaleman]

Check http://vintagesemiautorifle.proboards.com for more information on the old Remington and Winchester autoloaders.

[TedH]

Dang you Ysabel Kid! Now you've got me searching the internet looking for a deal on another rifle!


I don't know what I could possibly need one for, but it looks like a rifle/cartridge that would be a hoot to produce ammo for and shoot.

The only thing saving me is the fact that Christmas is nearing and I don't have any money for a new rifle.