So of all the modern new 1892s which one is the best?
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So of all the modern new 1892s which one is the best?
Miroku, Rossi, Navy, Cimarron,EMF?? Its a bit confusing.By best I mean no safetys, smooth reliable action ,accurate, well made ,and parts support. I realize some of them may need some tweaking work to eliminate quirks .
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Except that, from what I understand, the Browning 92 is barely a 92 at all as far as original design/parts go...
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I was thinking the presafety EMF. But, the only Browning I've seen was on a dealer's shelf about 15 years ago.........
There are some real nice 92s out there and I need more........
There are some real nice 92s out there and I need more........
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+1. Found it NIB in a shop in northwest OH about four years ago, for $300 OTD. Owner had it for $300 plus tax and all, but gave it to me OTD because I had cash and asked if he'd do it. Said the gun was on the shelf for "almost a month" and he was tired of looking at it.dz86 wrote:Browning 92.
I have one in .357 and I love it.
I didn't believe him. A B92 wouldn't last that long. I think his cash flow was hurting that week/month.
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Never owned a Browning.
I have 2 Rossis. One stainless, one blued, both .357's. Both as accurate as I can shoot, and eat a wide variety of ammo with most bullet shapes without ever jamming. But I do have one cast bullet that does not feed - and LBT 150 grain, .357 OWC. Everything else I have tried feeds and shoots great. The OWC's shoot good, but must be single loaded.
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I have 2 Rossis. One stainless, one blued, both .357's. Both as accurate as I can shoot, and eat a wide variety of ammo with most bullet shapes without ever jamming. But I do have one cast bullet that does not feed - and LBT 150 grain, .357 OWC. Everything else I have tried feeds and shoots great. The OWC's shoot good, but must be single loaded.
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I have a Browning B92 in 357 and an Interarms M92 in 357.
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Re: So of all the modern new 1892s which one is the best?
None of the current ones.cvarcher wrote:...By best I mean no safetys...
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model 92
I also had a Browning model 92 in 357.I really liked it except I split a case in it.I pounded it open with a wooden mallet.I sold it after that wish I hadnt.It was very cheap to reload for and didnt kick at all.I hope i find another one some day.
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Anybody know if a B-92 will feed a Keith SWC 250 grain .44 magnum from the magazine of the rifle? I have a Winchester/Miroku that will feed a .44 special of that loading, but not the magnum ( it's too long OAL ). Just curious if the Browning was any different.
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I found the same thing with the Keith 429421 and others of similar shape and length. Feeds with the special case but not with the magnum case. Been decades since I tried but recall it wasn't so much length in that the elevator wouldn't raise it but that with the added length, the top of the slug would jam on the top of the chamber mouth and wouldn't enter the chamber. I think if the elevator was fiddled with so it didn't go up so high, it could be made to work. But like I said, many moons have passed since then. Maybe Nate would comment on whether it could be made to work.Hank Dodge wrote:Anybody know if a B-92 will feed a Keith SWC 250 grain .44 magnum from the magazine of the rifle? I have a Winchester/Miroku that will feed a .44 special of that loading, but not the magnum ( it's too long OAL ). Just curious if the Browning was any different.
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On my rifle, that 429421 slug in a magnum case won't clear from the magazine onto the elevator if I remember correctly. It's been quite some time since I tried it. I just remember thinking that this new little rifle was working GREAT with my "cowboy" loads and wanted to try a few of my Keith rounds in it. I loaded about three in through the gate and tried to lever the action, the thing just bound up and I had to fish the loads back out through the gate if I remember correctly.
Anyhow, they didn't work in my rifle and I was wondering if the Browning was any different. I love that little rifle. It's very accurate and functions fine with the 429421 loaded in special cases as well as standard length magnum rounds. It's not that big of a bother, as I can single load a Keith magnum if I desire. I'd sure be interested if it could be modified to feed them reliably though.
Hank
Anyhow, they didn't work in my rifle and I was wondering if the Browning was any different. I love that little rifle. It's very accurate and functions fine with the 429421 loaded in special cases as well as standard length magnum rounds. It's not that big of a bother, as I can single load a Keith magnum if I desire. I'd sure be interested if it could be modified to feed them reliably though.
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In most 92s, (in my experience), bullet designs with very wide meplats are troublesome. The 92 needs a round nose to feed reliably in large calibers. This is also true of most Kieth style bullets in .45Colt also. I was just out in the pasture shootin' my EMF/Rossi 92 in .45Colt with a bullet very much like this .428 Round Flat Nose.
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Close but no cigar. I personally think the Browning B92 is the greatest 92 ever. But sadly they are no longer made. It was made by Miruko of Japan , the same folks that make the new Winchester limited 92's but there's a big difference between it and the B92.jd45 wrote:Would the Miroku/Winchester & the Browning be one & the same? I suspect they are but what do you guys say? Thanx, jd45
P. S.....I owned a B-92 several years ago, & was very impressed with the fit, finish, AND its accuracy. Wish I still had it.
I'm not a big fan of the Miruko made Winchester 92. Inside, it's nothing like the original. It has way too many add-on liability parts making it hard to tune and over time some of these tiny fragile parts and spring will fail. In order to smooth this gun out the first thing that has to go is that goofy rebounding hammer, inertia firing pin, trigger block, tang safety stuff. Everyone of them I've seen so far has had carrier detent springs that are too light and they tend to stovepipe too easy.
Think about this. All the folks that made the originals are long dead and gone. The folks with the most experience building 92's now are the Rossi folks. They have been doing it for 30 years. They aren't finished as nice as the others but they don't cost twice as much either and inside it’s closer to the original than the others.
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Looking at the Rossi catalog I see that every 92 they make has a 1:30 twist rate.
I'm pretty sure the loads I'd choose would be tumbling out of those barrels. My 325g cast tumbles out of the Marlin 1:38 barrel.
Steve, do you know the Browning twist rate? It's probably pretty slow too.
What were the original Winchester 92 twist rates, anyone know?
I'm pretty sure the loads I'd choose would be tumbling out of those barrels. My 325g cast tumbles out of the Marlin 1:38 barrel.
Steve, do you know the Browning twist rate? It's probably pretty slow too.
What were the original Winchester 92 twist rates, anyone know?
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A little faster would be better but that's one of the things that rossi has had on the marlins. The 1-30 does a good job of stabilizing the bigger bullets so the Rossi's have generally grouped better.Grizz wrote:Looking at the Rossi catalog I see that every 92 they make has a 1:30 twist rate.
I'm pretty sure the loads I'd choose would be tumbling out of those barrels. My 325g cast tumbles out of the Marlin 1:38 barrel.
Steve, do you know the Browning twist rate? It's probably pretty slow too.
What were the original Winchester 92 twist rates, anyone know?
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