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[wm]

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[Hobie]

Would that person be Mr. Wellman?

[northwoods]

Another book, unless I missed something, is Banditti of the Plains, by
I.G. McPherren. (Cattlemen's Invasion of Wyoming in 1882).
Some names are not the same.
Bob

[wm]

Yes Wellman. I walk my pup through the cemetery every other day. I'll have to keep my eyes open for his final resting spot.

Wm

[Don McDowell]

That page you posted is so full of inaccuracies its almost laughable.

[Terry Murbach]

THIS IS AN INTERESTING READ. ALONG WITH THE LINCOLN COUNTY WAR IN NEW MEXICO IT IS THE BEST KNOWN EXAMPLE OF AN OLD WEST RANGE WAR. THIS IS TOO BAD, REALLY A DARNED SHAME, AS THE PLEASANT VALLEY WAR IN ARIZONA TERRITORY MADE THE TWO ABOVE MENTIONED "WARS", COMBINED , LOOK LIKE CAMPFIRE GIRL MEETINGS, OR PERHAPS A BUNCH OF WHINERS PLAYING PATTIE CAKES.
THE PLEASANT VALLEY WAR IN THE A.T. WAS UNBELIEVEABLE IN IT'S LENGTH AND FEROCITY. IT WAS FAMILY AGAINST FAMILY AGAINST FAMILY AND PEOPLE WERE FOUND FOR MANY MANY YEARS SHOT, HANGED, GARROTED, OR JUST FLATOUT D.R.T. MANY WERE NEVER FOUND, THEY JUST DISAPPEARED FOREVER.
THIS OF COURSE IS TO NOT EVEN MENTION THE APACHE INDIAN RAIDS IN ARIZONA THAT WENT ON UP INTO THE 1930's. YEP, THAT IS RIGHT !!! INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE 1930'S AND THE DEPRESSION, AND THE NEW DEALERS HID IT ALL BEAUTIFULLY AS THEY CONTROLLED ALL THE NEWS "FIT TO PRINT" IN THIS COUNTRY AT THAT TIME, RIGHT UP UNTIL THIS TIME. THINK ABOUT THAT; IT IS TRUE !!!

[Don McDowell]

A person that don't know much about the way things are or were can still find themselves on the wrong side of things in the Powder River country, by blowing and going on about how some hired gun appointed US deputy marshal got hisself ambushed by "squatters" "homesteaders" and rustlers..

[Modoc ED]

That page you posted is so full of inaccuracies its almost laughable.

I need a good laugh. How about listing some of the inaccuracies.

[wm]

I meant no offense and as sorry if I ruffled any feathers amongst you guys. If you look closely those are the articles written by the Bay City Tribune and New York
Times from that period. They are not my opinion. I have no dog in this fight.

I only found it interesting that for a change there was a local connection to the Western History you folks seem to enjoy so much. Like I said I walk by this man's grave two or three times a week and had no idea he played a role in such a storied part of our national history.

Again no offense meant and if you will feel more comfortable I will gladly take the entire posting down.

Wm

[RKrodle]

wm, thats pretty cool. It's always fun to find a local connection to history.

[northwoods]

I am glad you posted it. I just started to read the Banditti book that my dad received in the forties as a gift. It has a copyright date of 1930 and I do not believe it has ever been read. You brought forth some history and I do not believe any feathers were pushed the wrong way. History is history and they had bad politicians and cover ups at that time, even to the president.

Respectfully
Bob

[Don McDowell]

That page you posted is so full of inaccuracies its almost laughable.

I need a good laugh. How about listing some of the inaccuracies.

The insinuation that Wellman got an urgent telegram on the 10th of May that he was needed back due to trouble at the ranch.... The invasion, and murder of innocent homesteaders by the stockgrowers and their hired guns was over nearly a month before that.
Next thing that glares out is the statement that , Johnson county didn't want to prosecute the invaders. That's pure bunk,Johnson county wanted to prosecute, but due to the corrupt political stunt pulled on behalf of the Stockgrowers and their hired murders, they were put into federal custody and held in "confinement" at Ft. DARussell in Cheyenne. In the first place the feds had no jurisdiction, but then like now that didn't stop things. The Stockgrowers , bought and paid for federal judge held those prisoners in Cheyenne and billed Johnson county. The bill to Johnson County was greater than the counties income, so they had no choice but to drop the charges.

[Lastmohecken]

I would love to hear or read more about the indian raids into the 1930's. That's very interesting.

[Don McDowell]

One other bit of food for thought about Wellman. Indeed he was hired by Blair to come and run the Hoe ranch, his first act of authority was to fire everyone there. The next day he was dead from gunshot wound to the back. Stockgrowers sympathizers were quick to blame it on the "homesteaders", it could of just as easily been one of the disgruntled recently fired folk from the Hoe ranch.

[Modoc ED]

wm - There was no need for yopu to remove your post. It was interesting. Sure there might be some things in it that are not exactly correct but that doesn't mean that we can't learn something about the past from articles like this.

REPOST your original post.

If some of us want to know more about the topic of the post we can do independent research about it.

Thanks for posting. Don't let this discourage you from posting in the future.

[Pete44ru]

wm - I'm sorry that you were chastised about the content of your post, as if you were the author.

Moreso, that you deleted your OP.

I am personally embarassed that you were treated like that.

IMHO, That is the same sort of attitude which tends to drive young folks from our sport - and would hope that you "consider the source" (another crusty fanny burp like myself ).

It took me quite awhile to learn that it wasn't WHAT one said - it was HOW what was said, that mattered.

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[Don McDowell]

There was no reason to remove the original post.

[rjohns94]

Wm, please repost the articles.

[AJMD429]

wm - I'm sorry that you were chastised about the content of your post, as if you were the author.

Moreso, that you deleted your OP.

I am personally embarassed that you were treated like that.

IMHO, That is the same sort of attitude which tends to drive young folks from our sport - and would hope that you "consider the source" (another crusty fanny burp like myself ).

It took me quite awhile to learn that it wasn't WHAT one said - it was HOW what was said, that mattered.

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+1 on every bit of that. Stuff doesn't have to be 'accurate' to be interesting, and it STILL provides someone's perspective on the issue at the time. The 'inaccuracy' itself is sometimes part of the overall story and history.

[Don McDowell]

Nobody chastized wm.
However it sure seems there's 3 busybody ol widder wemen want to stir trouble where there really wasn't any to be found....... But then to expect anything less from any or all of them would be......

[Blaine]

Hey, WM, go ahead and re-post..... I missed it the first time.

[Don McDowell]

The original link wm posted is dead, but heres one from the same web page.http://bjmi.us/bay/1he/writings/wellman-george-a.html.

heres another take on it.http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/johnson.html