.35 rem for elk?

[leeloader]

My son has drawn cow elk youth hunt in 6a in Arizona. My question is would the .35 rem be up to the task on cow elk? I gave him a 336sc that my dad gave me 40 yrs ago and he would like to take grandpa's rifle with him. He would be using horandy's new rubber tipped 200 gr bullet if we took it. What do you think? Most shots will be under 100 yards anyway.

[Old Ironsights]

My son has drawn cow elk youth hunt in 6a in Arizona. My question is would the .35 rem be up to the task on cow elk? I gave him a 336sc that my dad gave me 40 yrs ago and he would like to take grandpa's rifle with him. He would be using horandy's new rubber tipped 200 gr bullet if we took it. What do you think? Most shots will be under 100 yards anyway.

Especially under 100yds, I'd use the heaviest bullet he can shoot accurately... and the Hornadies aren't it.

The Hornadies may help for ranges over 100, but you need mass & penetration.

[Lefty Dude]

Nice round for a youth Elk hunt. I have hunted 6A many times, and have taken several Cows from that area. At that time I was using my Ruger #3 in 30-40 krag.
good luck, I hope he anchor's one.

[Old Ironsights]

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/35remington.htm

[Idiot]

You might want to pick up a couple boxes of Buffalo Bore's heavy 35 Remington loads. They will extract as much power and flat trajectory out the 35 Remington as possible. I think the 35 is certainly up to the task clear out to 200 yards, but having a little extra in the tank couldn't hurt.

Drawing an elk tag in Arizona is getting harder and harder, and the periods in-between tags are getting longer and longer. You will want to make the best of this opportunity. Have fun and hammer an elk.

BTW, this month's issue of Guns and Ammo has an article on 35 Remington. It says that out of most of the factory ammo currently offered, Buffalo Bore's was the most accurate and powerful in his test gun.

[stretch]

Why not? It should be plenty under 100yds.
Place your shot well - as you would with any
caliber.

The Remington Core-Lokt 200 gr round is a very old
bullet design, but they got it right the first time.

I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

-Stretch

[tman]

if he can't do it with the 35, he won't be able to do it with a .338. shot placement is everything. the 35 will kill any elk that ever lived.

[madman4570]

yup!!
To 150 yards,will put her down!!!!

[Old Time Hunter]

I got a nice Bull Elk up the Clark Fork in the Bitter Roots with a 240 grain JSP out of a '94 Winchester Trapper chambered in .44 Mag. That .35 will handle it as long as you can hit her in the vitals, 'course hit'n her in the ear might pose a problem.

[pokey]

heck . yeah!

[MacMarlin]

I got a cow elk up here in Idaho a couple of years ago. I was using a Marlin 336A in .35 Rem and factory Remington 200 gr. cartridges. She was about 80 yards up a steep slope angling away from me. The bullet took out her lungs, broke her shoulder and stopped under the hide. She only went about 20 yards. The .35 Rem is very under rated!

[Tycer]

Why not? It should be plenty under 100yds.
Place your shot well - as you would with any
caliber.

The Remington Core-Lokt 200 gr round is a very old
bullet design, but they got it right the first time.

I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

-Stretch

And I'd pass on the Leverevolution. It's had mixed reviews as to terminal performance. The old Core-Lokt is still around for a reason! I use that same bullet in my .358 Win.

[Jason_W]

My close range tests have shown that the .35 leverevolution holds up pretty well when it hits something. I'm going to conduct some 100 yard tests when I finally get my act together. Accuracy was pretty good at 100 yards, but it's hard for me to gauge. I'm not that great a shot, so I take my group sizes with a grain of salt (good or bad).

I'd like to test some 225 grain loads, but the last I checked, midway was out of them, along with everything else

[Old Savage]

I have found Rem 200s to be accurate in my Marlin. This was with a 2.5x Weaver.

[El Chivo]

The Remington 200 gr load and the Marlin 336-35 are a perfect match.

[BigSky56]

I kill elk with a 30 WCF so I know a 35 will work, I would be careful of the new flex tip Hdys as I havent heard any reports using them on elk just deer and they did good on them. danny

[Modoc ED]

Like "BigSky56 ", I've hunted with and killed Elk with a .30-30 . The .35 Rem should be just right for Elk.

I'm surprised to hear some levergunners here say it is only good for 100-yards or less. Provided you can put a bullet in an 8-inch circle at 200-yards, you're good to go to 200-yards plus with the 35 Rem.

[El Chivo]

Like "BigSky56 ", I've hunted with and killed Elk with a .30-30 . The .35 Rem should be just right for Elk.

I'm surprised to hear some levergunners here say it is only good for 100-yards or less. Provided you can put a bullet in an 8-inch circle at 200-yards, you're good to go to 200-yards plus with the 35 Rem.

I think that's because of bullet drop, the big bullet does drop about a foot at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero.

It's also true that the larger caliber bullet loses energy faster than the .308's of similar weight, but there's still some punch to it at 200 yards.


Energy comparison (muzzle and 25 yard increments):

Remington 30-30-170

1827 1698 1577 1462 1354 1253 1159 1072 990 913 843

Remington 35-200

1922 1740 1571 1418 1278 1151 1034 930 838 757 686

Velocity comparison (muzzle and 25 yard increments):

Remington 30-30-170

2200 2121 2044 1968 1894 1822 1752 1685 1619 1556 1494

Remington 35-200

2080 1979 1881 1787 1697 1610 1526 1447 1374 1306 1243

[marlinman93]

Our great grandfather s killed them with muzzleloaders, so I'm pretty sure the .35 will have no trouble if the shot is right. I wouldn't go with great big heavy loads for a youth. He'll get recoil shy and jerk the trigger. Best to use some factory 190's and have him hit what he aims for.

[Old Ironsights]

...I think that's because of bullet drop, the big bullet does drop about a foot at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero.
...

Yep. That and it's a kid. Being good and close with a heavy bullet will compensate for a lot of inexperience...

[Modoc ED]

...I think that's because of bullet drop, the big bullet does drop about a foot at 200 yards with a 100 yard zero.
...

Yep. That and it's a kid. Being good and close with a heavy bullet will compensate for a lot of inexperience...

Part of what I said about hitting an 8" circle at 200-yards takes bullet drop into account. Doesn't matter who the shooter is, they need to be able to shoot and handle the recoil of the rifle they're shooting. If, as some of you think, the .35 Remington with heavier bullets is too much for a kid, then whoever is supervising the kid should seek a better suited rifle for the kid.

What did they do back when lever actions rifles and single shot rifles were pretty much what most hunted with -- pass up any shot over 100-yards? I don't think so.

[buckeyeshooter]

I would sight in the leverevolutions and go elk hunting!

[Bogie35]

The Remington 200 grain CoreLokt factory load is legendary for quickly killing whatever you shoot with it out to 150 yards, provided you hit your target. That includes everything from the smallest deer to the biggest moose on the continent. And rarely does a Marlin not shoot that load accurately.

My favorite gun writer, John Taffin, believes in the 35's ability to cleanly take elk. That says enough for me.

Good luck. I hope it all works out well.

bogie

[Modoc ED]

I would sight in the leverevolutions and go elk hunting!

Good thinking and well said.

[leeloader]

Thanks guys, I think I will go back to my old rem 200 core-lok and use the rubber stuff for deer. Thanks again for all the help.

[t.r.]

Both my son and I have taken elk with his 35 Remington rifle. Plain 200 grain core-lokt ammo by Remington gets the job done every time. This cartridge hits with more thunder than paper charts would suggest.

Center your crosshairs as illustrated by the red dot and you'll make a clean kill out to approx 175 yards or so. Elk are not armor-plated at all; the 200 grain bullet tears apart chest organs with ease. But don't expect the animal to fall over right away. Instead, lever the action and shoot again quickly and accurately. If still it's standing or walking, shoot AGAIN. It's no shame to shoot a big 700 lb elk several times to topple it. That's why you're hunting with a Marlin instead of a TC single shot rifle.

If recoil is a problem, have the barrel MAGNA-PORTED and a Limb Saver pad installed. You'll think you're shooting a 410 shotgun instead of a hard hitting 35 Remington!

Good hunting to you.
TR

[Bogie35]

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/35remington.htm

+1

Also: http://www.leverguns.com/articles/fryxe ... ington.htm

bogie

[Old Savage]

Friend of mine has Remington Model 8 # 777.

[O.S.O.K.]

I will add my yes to the list - and also would personally go with Remington factory 200 grain loads or handload equivalents.

Especially if he shoots the rifle well and is confident with it.

[Bogie35]

The 200 grain Remington factory load will penetrate just as much at 200 yards as it does at 100 yards, and with only slightly less expansion.

http://www.suitorsgarage.com/gunstuff/3 ... part1.html

bogie

[AJMD429]

I'm surprised to hear some levergunners here say it is only good for 100-yards or less. Provided you can put a bullet in an 8-inch circle at 200-yards, you're good to go to 200-yards plus with the 35 Rem.

Logically thinking through the matter....

Shot placement is paramount - Whatever gun/load he chooses, his maximum range could be conceived of by the following.

• He has to hit within an 8" circle consistently.
  The round has to penetrate say at least 15"-18".
  The round has to have enough 'knock down power' at that range.

Judging by the experienced hunters and shooters commenting above, the second and third criteria are met by the .35 Remington out to 200 yards with available loads.

Thus, see what his marksmanship (and stalking) skills are, and you'll know if it will work.

My bet is that he will do just fine with the good old .35 Remington.

[CEMENTHEAD]

I'd say we're all on the same page......sight in with Remington 200grain Corelokts and go hunt. Good Luck and have fun, Tom