WAY OT: UFO SIGHTING

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:02 pm

Last night I was driving out to the farm where I was going deer hunting in the morning. I came around a corner and noticed a large bright light in the sky. At first I thought it must be a plane, but as I got a better look it just didn't look "right". I'm out in the middle of nowhere, so I pull the truck over and stop. The object is south of me and clearly traveling in an easterly direction. The light appears to be kind of long and stretched out at first, so I dig through my pack and get out my binoculars. Through the glasses it is plain to see that it is not one bright light, but at least 6 separate white lights in a "V" shape. I could not see any red or green strobes that are usually seen on normal aircraft at night, just the bright white lights that appeared to be at the rear of whatever craft this was.

Now I'm not a crazy Roswell freak or anything, and I'm not even saying I think this could have been extraterrestrial. It was just an object that was flying, that I could not identify. It was a pretty exciting few minutes though.

Any thoughts as to what kind of plane might look that way at night?

Noah Zark · Post by **Noah Zark** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:05 pm

TedH wrote: . . . Any thoughts as to what kind of plane might look that way at night?

From your description, that's almost certainly an Arkillian battle crusier.

Noah

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:09 pm

I was afraid of that.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:29 pm

Nah. It was just a weather balloon.

bogie

Stan in SC · Post by **Stan in SC** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:33 pm

Swamp gas.

66GTO · Post by **66GTO** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:34 pm

Could it have been this?

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... public_rss

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:49 pm

First, give me some of that good weed you were smokin' and then we will discuss it.

------------------Sixgun

Post by **Hobie** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:37 pm

Had that happen to me on a trip to the huntin' area. Meteor. The light lit up the cab of the truck! The thing landed in NY (and I'm here in VA!).

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:41 pm

Hobie wrote:Had that happen to me on a trip to the huntin' area. Meteor. The light lit up the cab of the truck! The thing landed in NY (and I'm here in VA!).

This weren't no meteor. Moved too slow for that, and was definitely multiple lights.

Ganjiro, that's bad!

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:47 pm

I spent 33 of 35 years as a guard on graveyard. I literaly lived out in the night, all night. My job was for lockheed and a lot of time was spent guarding "things" away from the plant alone in total darkness on the dessert. When you spend a lot of time like that you do get to see a lot of comet and sattelight activity more than the average person would guess. I belive most are meteors and comets. But I know I positively once seen a ufo of some type. And I didnt belive in them! This was not on my job. I and a cousin were about 14 years old sleding on a cold, clear moonlight night in wisconsin. We seen what looked like a 2nd moon, but it wasnt the moon. It was hard to say how big or far away as there was nothing to compare it with. It suddenly went out or off like a flashlight and a few secounds later lit up in another area of the sky. It would do this maybe 6 different times. It never appeared to move in the least but was stationary when lit like a huge spotlight or the moon. Shutoff, reappier in another location. It was a cloudless full moon night and with the snow on the ground it seemed you could almost read a newspaper.
I hadent seen my cousin for about 35 years again untill about 6 years ago we got together again. Susan is a now retired LEO. I asked her if she remembered it the same way I did. She remembered it exactly as I did and as vivedly as me! This would have been in about 1955.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:26 am

Well Bogus, one of the retired SR71 pilots described and event he saw one day. Those fellows you would think are pretty good observers.

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:30 am

Old savage, another event my wife and I both seen together about 5 years ago, we were driveing between palmdale and quartz hill one night and saw what had to be a huge comet going west from east. It looked like a huge space ship crashing and burning. It must have been a comet comeing in the same angle as the earth. Probley crashed in the ocean, but it looked really like it hit out around frazer park. The sky lit up when it hit earth. I had a son in law working at some type of mine out around lake of the woods area and he claimed it hit near him, but he lies a lot!

Post by **Hobie** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:58 am

TedH wrote:
Hobie wrote:Had that happen to me on a trip to the huntin' area. Meteor. The light lit up the cab of the truck! The thing landed in NY (and I'm here in VA!).
This weren't no meteor. Moved too slow for that, and was definitely multiple lights.

Ganjiro, that's bad!

They are so high up they SEEM to move slowly and so big they SEEM to be close.

kirkwood · Post by **kirkwood** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:03 am

Could be sky candles. You can actually buy these ready made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wSxUISr ... re=related
They are becoming more common in the US. People tie them together to make shapes.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:05 am

You don't have to convince me, Sir.......I've watched them a couple times with witnesses. Too far away and up to see that close, but a bright, big spot of light that would be still, then race at incredable speed and stop and do that for quite awhile before disappearing before your eyes.....

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:44 am

kirkwood wrote:Could be sky candles. You can actually buy these ready made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wSxUISr ... re=related
They are becoming more common in the US. People tie them together to make shapes.

Those are cool! I'd be afraid of starting a forest fire though.

bogie

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:48 am

I believe UFO's exist, although I've never seen one.

I bet when monkeys started seeing humans, none of their buddies believed them either!

bogie

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:54 pm

I suppose it could have been something like those candles. There was no sound that I could hear and the formation of the lights was a perfect chevron. No scratch that. It was traveling east, and the wind was out of the south at the time.

piller · Post by **piller** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:27 pm

Don't have any idea what it might have been. Back when I first got to the 82nd Airborne Division, my unit had been out at Fort Ord for desert training about six months before I arrived. Several soldiers in my platoon had some really cool pictures of some type of aircraft they had seen flying there at night. The pictures were pretty good due to the clear dry air in the desert. No one could figure out just exactly what it was, but we thought it was some new type of aircraft that the U.S. was probably working on in secret. About 3 years later the F117 Stealth Fighter was introduced to the world. I saw pictures of it before it supposedly existed. Maybe what you saw was some top-secret test aircraft. Remember, some stuff is kept secret to give us an edge if the manure ever impacts on the rotating wind producer, so to speak. The SR-71 was kept secret for the first 10 to 12 years of it's being fully operational.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:33 pm

That is what I really believe, that it may be some type of military craft we don't know about yet. We're not all that far from Whiteman AFB, where they keep the B2s. I remember as a kid getting excited when the fighters would fly over fast and low.

tman · Post by **tman** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:34 pm

never saw one. if you beleive in a supreme being{GOD], then you can't rule out other lifeforms. can't understand why the government always wants to make a nut job out of a person who reports sightings. just explain it and let it go at that. same with the kennedy assasination. if it happened like the warren report said, then release all the documents.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:36 am

In 1952 my dad and I were fishing in a remote area southeast of Mount Lassen National Park. On the second morning there we saw a shiny top shaped object high in the sky above us. We laughed and commented about it being a UFO. I stuck a stick in the ground so I could stand and sight past the tip of a pine tree. It did not move for 3 hours. I took 3 pictures of it then. When we returned from our vacation my dad took the film in to be developed. It was a 12 picture roll. We got back 10 prints, one of the sighting prints had a dark line smeared across the part of the print where the object was. We did not get back the other 2 sighting pictures. We got back 9 negatives, none of the sighting.

coyote nose · Post by **coyote nose** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:51 pm

Well, I hope I can add my 2 cents worth. I have 2 major interests in my life: guns and astronomy. Have been actively observing since 1974 (the same year I got my first .22)...and believe me, if you think leverguns are addicting...you ought to see the telescopes I have made over the years! Anyway, I have logged thousands of hours in the night sky over the past 34 years, all written up in log books (yes I keep track). I get UFO questions often. I am not doubting the veracity of any of the board members, but believe me I am wondering where the heck have I been to log all that time freezing my butt off observing the night sky at all goofy hours and never had even a glimpse of one. Personally, I do not believe in them, but I firmly believe like tman said. When asked while giving lectures to scouts or classes etc about it, I reply that if you believe in a Supreme Being, then the universe could be teeming w/life. If you believe in science, then statistics basically says we are alone. Below is a pic of my observatory, completed in 2004 on the day Ronald Reagan died. I named it the Ronald Reagan Observatory. Thats me on the ladder at the eyepiece end . The scope took me 5 years to build (was busy messing w/lever guns...darn interruptions!

)Thanks for letting me share this and adding my 2 cents.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:17 pm

Ted -

What I want to know is how you piped in the "X-Files" theme music with this post!

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:25 pm

UFO's are one reason I always have a firearm handy. I have always wanted a shot at one! It seems that they may be intelligent however, since for 55 years they have stayed away from me.

I almost shot one down in 1965. I was in Phoenix, AZ at the time .. at a friend's house. While listening to the radio the announcer said there were cars stopped near Tatum and Shea Blvds., watching a UFO! We were only a few blocks away and so grabbed a rifle and headed out.

It was mostly bare desert then (north of Tatum & Shea) and we went roaring off into the desert to try and head it off. I could see it coming south of me, heading east. We lined up the rifle sights on the moon, figuring that when it silhouetted itself against the moon we would unload on it.

Just as I was ready to pull the trigger I made out what it was and held from firing.

It was a large glider being towed by a jeep. The glider had a nice glowing light under it. Pretty cool setup.

But I was kinda disappointed. I wanted an eetee.

However, even though life disappoints one sometimes we never give up hope.

alnitak · Post by **alnitak** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:40 pm

coyote nose wrote: If you believe in science, then statistics basically says we are alone.

Depends. Sagan's famous equation makes a strong statistical case for other life in the universe. Some of the Intelligent Design folks would have you believe we couldn't have arisen/evolved by natural mechanisms, with statistics that prove how unikely that event would be. However, other studies have shown that even a simple mechanism for duplicating & retaining a particular sequence obviates the need for ID and makes life a statistical probability. So, it seems to me that statistics support the possibility of other life forms.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:58 pm

coyote nose wrote: If you believe in science, then statistics basically says we are alone.

???

Infinite universe; billions of galaxies made up of billions x billions of stars, and now it appears that planets are common for stars rather than rare. The numbers are with life.

Not to say it is intelligent, or resembles anything we know or understand.

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:56 pm

hmmmmmmm - I thought that this was a post about UFO SIGHTINGS rather than one about whether or not there is intelligent life anyplace else?

But .. the answer is: NO ONE KNOWS ... it's all a just a guess .. at least until I shoot one down.

So what kind of levergun do you use to shoot down UFO's? For me, I am sticking with the tried and true .30-30 in a Model 94 Winchester. And I am using HANDLOADS - no matter what Mr. Ayoob or any other expert says! I like my 130 gr. Speer loads. They are going fast enough to punch through a heat shield and wreck the warp engine.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:13 pm

Better smoke a fatty or you will never get arms around this one. Anonymous.

coyote nose · Post by **coyote nose** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:19 am

"Infinite universe; billions of galaxies made up of billions x billions of stars, and now it appears that planets are common for stars rather than rare. The numbers are with life. "

Not really once you eliminate variable output stars, multiple systems, unstable systems, planet size and orbit distance, etc, etc., etc.. Just to get a habitable planet...let alone life to arise from NOTHING. The odds of it happening once are astronomical (pun intended!!). The odds of it happening TWICE????
Science often uses statistics to rule out theories as being improbable due to small odds.

GonnePhishin · Post by **GonnePhishin** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:17 am

Nah, I think it was the Starship Enterprise

Beam him up Scotty

GonnePhishin · Post by **GonnePhishin** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:19 am

Hey coyote nose,

Nice looking Reflector 'scope.

Adobe Walls · Post by **Adobe Walls** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:57 pm

Howdy.

Missouri has it's share of sightings. Considering the number of military flights these days, who knows? I think that there ARE secret aircraft types operational or at least in testing at any given time though, so no doubt you saw something beyond the normal night sky entertainment.
A nephew of mine saw something strange in the Arizona desert one night and he no longer has any desire to see "it" again. He said that it was lights in the sky but the feeling was ominous and a bit too spiritually threatening to ever want to see that one again. This one was certainly different in comparison to other night sky things he had experienced before or since. Chariots of the Gods maybe?AW

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:53 pm

We were returning from Arizona, coming across I-40 towards Amarillo. It was about 2AM and we were listening to Art Bell - COAST TO COAST - to stay awake. The little Ford was running steadily at about 85 MPH and Art Bell suggested that the listeners try to contact UFO's telepathically and then call him and let him know what happened.

As we travelled through the Texas night, about 10 miles west of Amarillo our vehicle was suddenly engulfed totally in a blazing light. It was extremely bright and lit up even the interior of the car. At the same moment the car lost power, slowed and we pulled to the side of the road.

The glowing light around us seemed to come from the rear and it seemed to me that there were pulsating lights within the light.

Out of the light a Being approached us. He passed a beam over each of us in the car and inspected us, gave us a warning and then suddenly he was gone!

The car started and ran seemingly normal except that for at least an hour it would not go over 65 MPH. After about an hour it picked up speed and resumed normal cruise at 85.

I never did call Art Bell and let him know.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:11 pm

stormspotter · Post by **stormspotter** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:48 pm

TedH, how far from Whiteman and which direction? I'm 20 miles east on Hwy 50.

I love watching the A-10's come in low and slow.

Take care,
Stormspotter

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:53 pm

Thanks Jim!

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:58 pm

stormspotter wrote:TedH, how far from Whiteman and which direction? I'm 20 miles east on Hwy 50.

Columbia.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 pm

Wait a minute...our government? Testing what?
Our government, who can't keep illegal immigrants from crossing our borders, is test-flying a craft that hovers with no sound and instantly flies to the other side of the night sky?

Oh yeah, did I mention that our next president's name is "Barack Hussein Obama", and our government has developed aircraft that fly closer to the speed of light than the speed of sound? Don't bogart that doob, maaaaaannnnnnn...

bogie

Post by **Old Savage** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:12 pm

Plenty of reliable people have witnessed craft/??? doing things way beyond our capability. None of the attempted explanations address that in any realistic way. This includes a few I know but none myself.

GANJIRO · Post by **GANJIRO** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:52 pm

I believe in UFOs in that people honestly believe they saw a flying object that can't be identified, BUT I don't believe extraterrestrial aliens from other planets visiting or Earth, neither do I believe in Bigfoot or ghosts for that matter. I believe the only higher lifeforms in the universe we should be concerned with is our almighty Heavenly Father, His only begotten son, and his angels. Everything else is a distraction by the devil to lead us astray from the real issues.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:02 pm

GANJIRO wrote:I believe in UFOs in that people honestly believe they saw a flying object that can't be identified, BUT I don't believe extraterrestrial aliens from other planets visiting or Earth, neither do I believe in Bigfoot or ghosts for that matter. I believe the only higher lifeforms in the universe we should be concerned with is our almighty Heavenly Father, His only begotten son, and his angels. Everything else is a distraction by the devil to lead us astray from the real issues.

Well said. Thank you.

Sincerely,
bogie

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:11 pm

While I certainly believe in God the Almighty, I also won't discount the possibility of life elsewhere in the vast expanse we call space. There is no way to know.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:14 pm

The original post of this thread was only a question about an unusual formation of lights, I never intended to start a debate of whether or not ET was coming.

Post by **Old Savage** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:24 pm

Ganji, standard Baptist interpretation but, even though you may not be, doesn't begin to address the evidence. How about the Star the wisemen followed and the "craft" the Israelites followed in the desert for 40 years - too simplistic.

GANJIRO · Post by **GANJIRO** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:03 pm

OS I'm not sure what your point is. I have absolutely no idea what Baptists believe, I don't believe you understand what I believe. I read the Bible and it's actually not difficult to follow especially if read with faith. I'm not sure what translations of the Bible you're reading but the several translations I'm familiar with none mention any "craft" (are you alluding to a space ship ?) following the Israelites around the wilderness for 40 years. If you read carefully the Gospels of Jesus it's obvious who the source of the "Star" over Bethlehem was. Some may want to refer to faith in an almighty god as simplistic, I've been called worse for my faith.
If you're trying to say the many miracles and visions in the Bible are alien in origin just proves what a great tool this belief (extraterrestrial life) is in the Devils efforts to try and discredit God's Word, and lead people away from the truth it contains.

Post by **Old Savage** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:27 pm

Ganji, I probably believe the same things you do. The "Star" that stopped over Bethlehem obviously wasn't a star in the sky - they don't stop over anything. Whatever they followed in the desert was a cloud by day and pillar of fire by night. That doesn't attach to anything that we can identify. The Baptists I know tend to attribute anything unidentifiable like this now to works of the devil or the like. Doesn't make sense to me where they draw this conclusion from the scriptures. I think there is something there that we can't determine.

I agree with you that the Bible speaks clearly to those of faith.

HATCHETTJACK · Post by **HATCHETTJACK** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:40 pm

it was a romulan battleship,,, im sure of it

GANJIRO · Post by **GANJIRO** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:30 pm

I will agree this point with both you and Mr. Neil Young:
"Maybe the Star of Bethlehem,
wasn't a star at all"

Though I must also agree with the Lynyrd Skynerd:
"Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow"

Wrangler John · Post by **Wrangler John** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:02 am

Saw a flashing light in the sky one dark night, way up there where planes don't fly. Turns out it was a tumbling satellite traveling SE to NW.

Then one evening, just after dark while on Mount Lassen, I saw a really cool bright light low in the sky moving quite rapidly. Then it faded away as it moved easterly. That was a large airplane still in the sunlight above the earth's shadow.

The neatest things are missiles launched from Vandenberg AFB that show a gold light followed by a loopy white contrail in the dark sky as it is caught in high altitude winds. What remains is a very bright white scribble in the sky that lasts for some time. Saw one in the daylight traveling past on 101 in a horse van and it was really a sight with the contrail and engine exhaust rising.

Back in the 1960's NASA launched a rocket with a container of barium that was exploded in space to test some high altitude thing or another, maybe the solar wind. When that thing went off in the early morning hours I was confronted with a suddenly appearing greenish glowing ball of light high above. I almost forgot to check the mares for new foals - it was exciting until the radio newscaster explained.

Anyway, I don't just jump to the conclusion that these things are alien technology, it's probably just something quite normal seen in unusual atmospheric circumstances, maybe even an unidentified animal that lives in the stratosphere (if stuff lives in volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean, it can live anywhere, and there are luminous creatures in the ocean depths and even glowing insects and worms). Besides, the Universe isn't a collection of separate "things" but a holistic process. At its primal level the universe is unfolding out of a single field that is beyond space-time, everything that happens influences all the rest of the whole instantly. So I hypothesize that when a single intelligent life form awakes within any given volume of space, the field of probability collapses preventing another from developing. There may only be one intelligent (rational) secondary material life form per universe as a means of isolating the specimen. We are alone within our volume of space preventing communication with anyone else at light speed. Who the primary intelligence is - well read the Bible. I also hypothesize that the universe has a psychology, an intelligence underlying matter, but that is even further afield; proving old cowboys have too much time to think.