Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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mklwhite
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Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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Went out today and the wind just blew and blew. So after a bit of sitting on the stand I hopped up and went out stalking to see if I could kick anything out of the gullies and/or cedar thickets. Well I was going near this "ridge" (high point on a rolling hill) when I heard a deer. It was coming through the brush at an angle to me. Not really running, but it had somewhere it needed to be. Not a good shot from where I was, caught a glimpse of a couple longish tines, but couldn't see well enough to verify legal (count them - it was most likely legal though 3 or more points to a side). Anyhow I kind of dropped down thinking who/what was after him (something bigger I hoped) and coming through the brush was a coyote? Looked pretty big for a yote. Seemed marked a bit different, but through the brush??? After he went by came another. Still awfully big for a yote. I hollered at it and it stopped. I took a good look at it through the scope (with finger on the trigger) and it reminded me a lot of a yote except bigger than most. He then took off through the brush after the first. While I'm standing there kicking myself for not taking the shot I saw another big one slip by on the other side of the thicket going towards the others. Now I've seen plenty of yotes and have end same. A couple kind of big one too, but not quite this big. And there to be three of them (one looked bigger (broader) than the other two, maybe).

A few years ago I was told that the Arkansas fish and game (in it's infinite wisdom) after reintroducing elk to the Ozarks decided to do the same with red wolves. One of the drop off points was suppose to be about a mile from where I was. I'm told that they kind of look like beefed up versions of coyotes more than they do wolves. (I've told; like a wolf and yote had a pup.) Anyhow I just thought I had something to tell and thought I'd share.

p.s. Kind of glad I didn't drop the hammer on it, I'm told they're protected.

p.p.s. Marlin 336 so the story is on topic. :wink:
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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Well, that's kinda cool. And its interesting that the buck wasn't running - just keeping ahead of them. Probably could have left them in the dust in the brush by jumping over it. Deer are amazing "athletes" in the brush.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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Here in Arizona some enterprising individuals have set up game cameras near the border and they have pictures of Jaguars that have tripped the cameras.Back where I am from, people have gotten complacent by the road that leads into the place.
But I have taken modern self assured feminists 200 yards off the road, and then " lost " them purposely.
It teaches them a good lesson & reminds us all that 200 yards away from what we are familiar with; the world belongs to the wild.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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I have seen what I'd call a red wolf near my little place. I checked on it and found that the red wolf is considered extinct in Texas (meaning not protected, because they don't exist ;-).)
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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I can not speak with authority on Rexas game laws as I do not live or hunt there but don't assume that because something is 'extinct' or 'doesn't exist' that it is not protected.

Of the three states where I have lived and hunted the law states that whatever is not specifically permitted is prohibited. In other words it is illegal to do anything that is not specifically permitted. In that case unless you can find a statute that says it is legal to hunt red wolves or other 'extinct' or non existant animals doing so is a crime.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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In the west, where there are many stockmen; there exist " depredation " laws.
This permits stockmen to kill things that threaten thier livestock, how this works exactly I am unsure of.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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I think I'd have shot it.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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In 1964 while hunting on the family farm in east central Iowa, I saw a red wolf. It was probably the last wild wolf in Iowa, as they were supposed to be extinct in the midwest at that time. I have seen lots of coyotes and feral dogs, and this wolf did not look like or act like any of those. Its behavour was regal and majestic.

If what you saw kind of looked like or behaved like a coyote, then it may have been a cross between a coyote and red wolf, as they do sometimes interbreed.
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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O.S.O.K. wrote:...Deer are amazing "athletes" in the brush.
+1
I've seen whitetails clear 8 foot pine trees without even changing the expression on their faces!

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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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Bogie35 wrote:
O.S.O.K. wrote:...Deer are amazing "athletes" in the brush.
+1
I've seen whitetails clear 8 foot pine trees without even changing the expression on their faces!

Sincerely,
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Re: Saw something odd while deer hunting.

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I have seen and killed several large Coyote/Red Wolfs at my lease. I took one of them to the Core of Engineers office to see what they said. It weighed close to 50 pounds. He told me that Louisiana had reintroduced some Red Wolves and they are working their way west. They don't refer to them as Red Wolves because some of them are interbreeding with coyotes and wild dogs. I saw another one this weekend trailing a big six point. He must have weighed 60 pounds. I didn't have time for a good shot but will be ready next time. We didn't talk about whether it was illegal to shoot them much but he did say you can't be sure of its bloodline unless you test it's DNA. :wink:
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