Gun Shows

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:08 pm

I was amazed this fall when i could just walk in to a gun show and purchase a firearm with no background check what so ever

any smuck can buy one. Then they want to take away are rights of gun ownership of us law abiding hunters, shooters, and collectors

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:28 pm

What part of "...shall not be infringed..." is hard to understand?

Post by **AmBraCol** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:03 pm

It's not the ability to freely purchase a weapon - it is the action committed with any kind of weapon that must be controlled. Those who use weapons to harm innocent people should be punished. Those of us who are NOT criminals should not be forced to jump through hoops in order to obtain a firearm. We are not the problem so why should we be punished? Those with criminal intent will always find SOME way to obtain or manufacture some kind of weapon. An example of what I'm talking about can be seen at:

http://paulmoreland.com/2007/04/19/when ... -outlawed/

There's over 5,000 answers to the question, "What will happen when guns are outlawed?" - it sure won't stop the criminal intent to cause harm to others...

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:25 pm

Punish those using firearms in the commission of a crime - not the rest of us!!!

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:53 pm

ohwin94_61 wrote:I was amazed this fall when i could just walk in to a gun show and purchase a firearm with no background check what so ever any smuck can buy one. Then they want to take away are rights of gun ownership of us law abiding hunters, shooters, and collectors

All dealers still have to run the background checks. Private sellers do not (here in VA). No difference than day-to-day ops sans gun shows.

Frankly, I think this idea that there is a "gun show loophole" is a load of hooey perpetuated by the Brady Bunch.

BTW, I've edited your poll to reflect legal fact rather than the Brady Bunch lie.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:05 pm

We dont need gun control....
We need criminal control.......liberal politician control....
liberal defence attorney control & liberal judge control..

We use to hang people in this country for stealing a horse...

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:11 am

Private sales at a gun show are no different than any other FTF, and shouldn't be treated any differently.

What I do find troublesome, is the offer(s) I've had, from some obvious gun show dealers- all in Florida - who said a particular gun "might be" a private sale.
If I was a "serious" buyer, they would "look it up". BS.

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:41 pm

Pete44ru hit the nail on the head it is a face to face that happens to be done in a public setting. Now as good law abiding citizens it is up to the buyer to transfer title with the local law enforcment agency as per their local laws.

If they start doing checks at gun shows what will be next? Next thing you know they will be doing back ground checks on kitchen knives

. Absolutely absurd. The only people affected by this sort of madness is are us (the law abiding citizen).

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:52 pm

Saloon slug wrote: If they start doing checks at gun shows what will be next? Next thing you know they will be doing back ground checks on kitchen knives . Absolutely absurd. The only people affected by this sort of madness is are us (the law abiding citizen).

That is the eventual goal for many leftists. Pick off guns one by one, then anything else a free person could use to resist the state, and then start negating our other freedoms one at a time. After all, we'll have given up any ability to refuse...

mikld · Post by **mikld** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:26 pm

"They" don't have to require background check or any other annoyance to law abiding citizens, they can do like Los Angeles county; BAN ALL GUN SHOWS! Hasn't been a gun show in Lost Angeles County in many years.

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:15 pm

Out law guns and only outlaws will have guns

user45 · Post by **user45** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:46 pm

ohwin94_61 wrote:I was amazed this fall when i could just walk in to a gun show and purchase a firearm with no background check what so ever any smuck can buy one. Then they want to take away are rights of gun ownership of us law abiding hunters, shooters, and collectors

You must be easily amazed.

All licensees must still comply with federal and state law when selling a firearm at a gun show.

Non-licensees can buy and sell firearms according to federal and state law, which does not require a background check. It's been like that since 1791.

ohwin94_61 · Post by **ohwin94_61** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:52 pm

user45 wrote:
ohwin94_61 wrote:I was amazed this fall when i could just walk in to a gun show and purchase a firearm with no background check what so ever any smuck can buy one. Then they want to take away are rights of gun ownership of us law abiding hunters, shooters, and collectors
You must be easily amazed.

All licensees must still comply with federal and state law when selling a firearm at a gun show.

Non-licensees can buy and sell firearms according to federal and state law, which does not require a background check. It's been like that since 1787.

Ok but your off buy the year it was 1871 when the NRA was founded

user45 · Post by **user45** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:10 pm

ohwin94_61 wrote:
user45 wrote:
ohwin94_61 wrote:I was amazed this fall when i could just walk in to a gun show and purchase a firearm with no background check what so ever any smuck can buy one. Then they want to take away are rights of gun ownership of us law abiding hunters, shooters, and collectors
You must be easily amazed.

All licensees must still comply with federal and state law when selling a firearm at a gun show.

Non-licensees can buy and sell firearms according to federal and state law, which does not require a background check. It's been like that since 1787.
Ok but your off buy the year it was 1871 when the NRA was founded

Nope, NRA has nothing to do with it. Study your Bill Of Rights!

dogngun · Post by **dogngun** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:34 pm

Please check this link:

www.gunowners.org/fs0404.htm

It concern several reports made by the FBI on where and how criminals get firearms. I can assure you none of them buys from a legal dealer, or through any "gunshow loophole".
That whole idea is a creation of the anti-gun lobbyists and has no basis in reality.
FWIW, I am a Pennsylvania Democrat-a gun owner and shooter for over 50 years. There are a lot of pro-gun and sensible Democrats-don't blame us all for the stupidity of a few-You have a few stupid Republicans as well, IIRC.
mark

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:57 am

Gun shows? I would prefer none at all.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:18 am

Gilbert. You're pushin' it. That's not even remotely funny.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:38 am

dogngun wrote:You have a few stupid Republicans as well, IIRC.
mark

There are indeed stupid Republicans and I will submit VA's own Senator John Warner as one...

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