G'day Gents,
Looking for a bit of help, I have a Rossi M92 rifle (with the octagonal barrel) in 44/40 and I am after some suggestions for a bullet mould. I only shoot black powder cartridges and at the moment I am using an original bullet mould and "Nut cracker" loading tool that I picked up at a gun show many moons ago (I have included some photos below). This bullet does shoot quite well but I am after some alternatives to try out in my rifle.
Cheers
44/40 Bullet Moulds
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44/40 Bullet Moulds
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
My favorite .44-40 mould is the 433205C made by Accurate Molds. It weight 205 gr. and has a very wide and deep grease groove perfect for BP loads:
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
Thanks very much Shasta, I will check it out.
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
The most popular for black powder loads is Accurate Mold's 43-215C. It is a direct replica of Ideal/Lyman's 42798/43098. However, John added a large lube groove and a roll crimp groove.
The 427098 is a 100% proven design.
Here are some more from Accurtae Molds for the .44
http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog.ph ... log-anchor
43-200L -
43-200Q (Heeled) - by Ed Harris, for rifles with large large groove diameters and small chamber Bullet Blog Post - Over-sized Bullet for Over Sizes Bores, Original Winchester 73' Bores.
43-200QL (Heeled)- by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75, same as 43-200Q but with large lube groove for black powder
43-205C - Large lube groove for Black Powder
43-205D -
43-205DT -
43-205M - by Mark Whyte aka Springfiled Slim Website
43-208A (Heeled) - by Bryan Austin aka Savvy Jack, for small bores but with a .429 exposed driving band to aid in accuracy and lower chamber pressures.
43-210B - by aka Fairshake aka Cajun Shooter, same profile as the Lyman 427098.
43-210G -
43-214A - by Bryan Austin, 40 consecutive shots inside 4" at 100 yards using Reloder 7. Replicates the Lyman 427098 but with a larger nose
43-215C - by John Kort aka w44wcf aka w30wcf, replicates the 427098 but adds a large lube groove for black powder, crimp groove
43-215CB -
43-219A - by Wheelgun, large meplat
43-219M - by Michael Streeter, Same as the 43-215C but with a crimp groove specifically designed for the LFCD
43-220C -
43-220CC - by Michael Streeter, Same as the 220C but with a change in the crimp groove specifically for use with the LFCD.
43-225D - by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75 (44 Magnum Frame 44-40 Revolvers)
43-229H - by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75, "230 grains is about optimum for a heavier weight in .44-40 which does not reduce powder capacity at factory OAL, stable in the slow rifle twist and shoots close to the fixed sights of older revolvers."
43-230E -
43-230EB -
43-230G - Ed Harris, aka Outpost75...The double-crimp-grooves enable using the rear crimp groove to seat boolits out long for maximum powder capacity in the .44 Russian or .44 Special, and also in the .44-40 and .44 Mag. Ruger original Vaqueros having longer cylinders, whereas the front crimp groove maintains correct cartridge OAL for magazine feeding in the lever-actions and also to fit the cylinder of Gen1 Colt SAs and the New Service.
43-320G2 - Ed Harris, smaller meplat than the G
43-245C - John Boy, for black powder long distance competition N-SSA shooting.
The 427098 is a 100% proven design.
Here are some more from Accurtae Molds for the .44
http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog.ph ... log-anchor
43-200L -
43-200Q (Heeled) - by Ed Harris, for rifles with large large groove diameters and small chamber Bullet Blog Post - Over-sized Bullet for Over Sizes Bores, Original Winchester 73' Bores.
43-200QL (Heeled)- by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75, same as 43-200Q but with large lube groove for black powder
43-205C - Large lube groove for Black Powder
43-205D -
43-205DT -
43-205M - by Mark Whyte aka Springfiled Slim Website
43-208A (Heeled) - by Bryan Austin aka Savvy Jack, for small bores but with a .429 exposed driving band to aid in accuracy and lower chamber pressures.
43-210B - by aka Fairshake aka Cajun Shooter, same profile as the Lyman 427098.
43-210G -
43-214A - by Bryan Austin, 40 consecutive shots inside 4" at 100 yards using Reloder 7. Replicates the Lyman 427098 but with a larger nose
43-215C - by John Kort aka w44wcf aka w30wcf, replicates the 427098 but adds a large lube groove for black powder, crimp groove
43-215CB -
43-219A - by Wheelgun, large meplat
43-219M - by Michael Streeter, Same as the 43-215C but with a crimp groove specifically designed for the LFCD
43-220C -
43-220CC - by Michael Streeter, Same as the 220C but with a change in the crimp groove specifically for use with the LFCD.
43-225D - by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75 (44 Magnum Frame 44-40 Revolvers)
43-229H - by Ed Harris, aka Outpost75, "230 grains is about optimum for a heavier weight in .44-40 which does not reduce powder capacity at factory OAL, stable in the slow rifle twist and shoots close to the fixed sights of older revolvers."
43-230E -
43-230EB -
43-230G - Ed Harris, aka Outpost75...The double-crimp-grooves enable using the rear crimp groove to seat boolits out long for maximum powder capacity in the .44 Russian or .44 Special, and also in the .44-40 and .44 Mag. Ruger original Vaqueros having longer cylinders, whereas the front crimp groove maintains correct cartridge OAL for magazine feeding in the lever-actions and also to fit the cylinder of Gen1 Colt SAs and the New Service.
43-320G2 - Ed Harris, smaller meplat than the G
43-245C - John Boy, for black powder long distance competition N-SSA shooting.
44-40 website - https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/
44-40 Forum - https://44-40.forumotion.com/?fbclid=Iw ... XqHFnpPtgI
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44-40 Forum - https://44-40.forumotion.com/?fbclid=Iw ... XqHFnpPtgI
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
Thanks so much Bryan for all that information! I will certainly have a look at the Accurate bullet molds.
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
Dang it, I woke up thinking about .44-40s this morning. Threads like this are dangerous when in such a state.
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Re: 44/40 Bullet Moulds
Even with the lack of primers and the high cost of everything else, I still get butterflies when I see 44-40 stuff
44-40 website - https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/
44-40 Forum - https://44-40.forumotion.com/?fbclid=Iw ... XqHFnpPtgI
aka Savvy Jack
44-40 Forum - https://44-40.forumotion.com/?fbclid=Iw ... XqHFnpPtgI
aka Savvy Jack