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[Ray]

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[AJMD429]

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I don't think mine in 45 ACP had a magazine safety; that's interesting. Maybe it did. Took 1911 single-stack mags.

One of the folding-stock companies made a nice folder for it so it could be used as a 'camp carbine'.

[Bill in Oregon]

Carbines in 9mm never interested me much, but the shooters at our range had a lot of fun with their Kel-Tecs SUB 2000s.
I had forgotten about the Marlin -- and yet I remember their bolt-action "Goose Gun" clear as day ...

[piller]

The new Ruger is heavy for what it is intended to be. If they could cut the weight, then it would be great. 9mm out of a carbine is not a powerful round, but it is probably enough for anything where there are not any bears.
Ray, that looks like a fun rifle to plink with.

[Ray]

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[2ndovc]

I bought one of the new PC9 carbines to replace an original model I'd bought when they came out. I really liked the original, but magazines were sometimes and issue. I have the adapter for using Glock mags in the new one and have had zero reliability issues with it. It's quite accurate as well. May be a bit on the heavy side, but nothing compared to my MPX. The Sig has the edge on accuracy and "cool" factor, but the PC9 far cheaper and would fill the same roll just as well. I don't shoot the PC much though, and I'm thinking I'll give it to one of the boys this spring for a birthday present.

I still wouldn't mind one of the Kel-tecs in .40 S&W to try out. I have a G23 stashed in a pack pack in my company wheels, I'm thinking one of the K-Ts would fold up nicely in the same pack.

jb

[Ray]

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[2ndovc]

I have one marked on my GB watch list. Just haven't "pulled the trigger".
Still think it would be a useful little carbine.

jb

[piller]

Out of a 16 inch barrel, the .40 S&W and the 38-40 have respectable velocity and power. Out of a handgun they are not anything I want to get hit by, but a few hundred fps increase from their handgun velocities does step it up into a different category. If it were all I had with me in a survival situation, I would be confident that the Kel-Tec in .40S&W could easily take a deer at 50 yards or more. The 38-40 out of a carbine has probably killed more deer than many people would believe.

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[AmBraCol]

Thanks, Ray! That's a fascinating look at a far different time and place...