A bullet for the .45-60

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A bullet for the .45-60

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I have an Uberti 76 inbound, and in reading over a number of posts here, over at CAS City and on Cast Boolits, there does not seem to be any clear winner among the various molds. Some like the old Lyman 457191, seem to work great for some guys and won't stay on paper for others. The Lyman Gould bullet 4572122 seems a good choice.
I confess, however, to being an Accurate Molds fan, and I am looking at Tom's 46-305C and 46-325C, leaning toward the latter for a little more oomph in a hunting bullet. Both have crimp grooves in useful places and lube grooves deep enough for both black and smokeless powder lubes. Does anyone here shoot either of these designs?

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I have a Gould mold I can loan you
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Tycer, that is a very kind offer. I'll send you a PM.
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For my Uberti made Taylor 1876 in .45-60, I have a Lyman 457191, an RCBS 45-300-FN, a Saeco 1E, and an Accurate 46-300B, all weighing around 300 gr. All shoot plenty well enough for NRA Centerfire Lever Action silhouette The gas checked RCBS is the most accurate, but due to the very high cost of gas checks I usually reserve that bullet for my .45-70 and use the plain base Accurate in the .45-60. I shot an AAA Class score of 29/40 with it at our last match.

I would be happy to send you some of each to try if you would like. shoot me a pm.

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Shasta, thank you. PM incoming.
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What's the twist rate in the Uberti? That will help determine if the light bullets are suitable for the rifle. Hopefully Uberti used a slower than standard twist in their .45-60, and not the faster twist they use in their .45-70 barrels.
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Re: A bullet for the .45-60

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Vall, I have heard both 1:20 and 1:26. Cimarron Arms says 1:20 for the .45-60 and .45-75 and 1:48 for the .50-95.
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Shasta wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:38 pm For my Uberti made Taylor 1876 in .45-60, I have a Lyman 457191, an RCBS 45-300-FN, a Saeco 1E, and an Accurate 46-300B, all weighing around 300 gr. All shoot plenty well enough for NRA Centerfire Lever Action silhouette The gas checked RCBS is the most accurate, but due to the very high cost of gas checks I usually reserve that bullet for my .45-70 and use the plain base Accurate in the .45-60. I shot an AAA Class score of 29/40 with it at our last match.

I would be happy to send you some of each to try if you would like. shoot me a pm.

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With you. on that, Scott. This is a community of good people right here.
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Re: A bullet for the .45-60

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I have the Accurate mold 350DL for my 45/75, no reason it shouldn't work in a 45/60 or 45/70. https://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail ... t=46-350DL
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Veeman, I have looked at that one as well. There is a fellow who goes by "King Medallion" over at CAS City in the Winchester 1876 forum that just ordered that mold for his .45-75.
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That would be me. :D
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Was wondering. 8)
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Well gang, my hat is off and I bow deeply to Tycer and Shasta. Priority boxes arrived this morning from both gentlemen, Tycer's including multiple examples of several other bullet designs and weights along with his Lyman Gould mold (which I will return shortly), and Shasta's including 50 beautifully cast, lubed and sized 300-grain bullets from Accurate Mold No 46-300B.
I won't have my cases or dies until the end of the week -- possibly the rifle, too -- but as soon as I have the chance, I will cast and load these bullets and give a full range report.
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No hurry on that mold. I have no intention of using it anytime soon. I have enough loaded and cast to last me a while. Especially since I am busy playing with loads in my Browning 53 32-20.
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Re: A bullet for the .45-60

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Bill, before you get started loading, make up a dummy round and try it in your rifle. The original .45-60 had a thinner rim than the .45-70. If you are using reformed .45-70 brass it may not chamber easily. My Uberti made Taylor's 1876 rifle had to have about .006" trimmed off the front of the rims on Hornady .45-70 brass before they chambered properly. Thanks to the writings of KirkD I learned how to thin the rims. One of our local silhouette shooters has a Uberti made Cimarron 1876 rifle that chambered shortened .45-70 brass with no problem. Thinning the rims is a pain, but you only have to do it once!

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Shasta, I had read that some of the Italian 1876s had issues with rim thickness, with the Chiappa versions more prone to the condition than the Ubertis. My rifle is an Uberti sold by Dixie Gun Works. I hope I don't have to deal with the issue as I don't have a lathe. I've seen references to altering the rims without a lathe by rigging a lag bolt and shield to a power drill to hold the case. Hope I don't have to do this.
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I have a Uberti 1876 Centennial in 45-60 and have been using cut down Starline 45-70 brass without issue. Mine is a later model, bought new about 4 years ago, I'm the second owner. YMMV of course.
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Not to nit-pick, but feel I should clear it up, there were no 76's made by Chiappa, I'm sure your thinking of Chaparral. I believe that Hornady brass is a bit beefier that Starline, Winchester or Remington.
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Veeman, I stand corrected. At least they both start with "Ch" ...
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