Short range report with the .357s
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- 2ndovc
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Short range report with the .357s
I didn't have a lot of time this morning, but was excited to shoot the .357s I picked up yesterday.
The man that owned them had been shooting both with a lot of .38 Specials. The chambers were really dirty and still need more cleaning. the 586 was sighted in for .38s, at 25 yds they hit point of aim. I wasn't shooting very well this morning, too much coffee and too many distractions. The iphone almost caught a round. The S&W definitely has the potential for an excellent shooter. I have to change the grips, they are way too big for my hands.
Both actions have been worked over. Triggers are excellent and the DA in the 586 is super smooth. The Vaquero will take a little playing around with finding the right load, but they're so much fun to shoot I'm not all that worried about it being a tack driver.
A little work I'm sure I can cut both of those groups in half.
jb
The man that owned them had been shooting both with a lot of .38 Specials. The chambers were really dirty and still need more cleaning. the 586 was sighted in for .38s, at 25 yds they hit point of aim. I wasn't shooting very well this morning, too much coffee and too many distractions. The iphone almost caught a round. The S&W definitely has the potential for an excellent shooter. I have to change the grips, they are way too big for my hands.
Both actions have been worked over. Triggers are excellent and the DA in the 586 is super smooth. The Vaquero will take a little playing around with finding the right load, but they're so much fun to shoot I'm not all that worried about it being a tack driver.
A little work I'm sure I can cut both of those groups in half.
jb
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Any time at the Range is better than being in a cubicle in the Office.
I am betting you really shoot those well.
I am betting you really shoot those well.
Re: Short range report with the .357s
A 6" S&W 357 was always my pistol, mine a Mod 19. I kinda abandoned it when I started packing 4" 45acp, because it's so light and handy, but the S&W is my first love! Good shooting!
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586 has always been a nice gun. Hope you enjoy both.
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- 2ndovc
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Fortunately, I work from home, if I'm not on the road inspecting insurance losses. My office is also my gun room, it makes for a good distraction some days, but you're right. Getting outside, watching the storms come and go and enjoying the weather before the humidity really gets up there is great therapy. Especially with a couple of six shooters along.
DD and Brian,
This is the third 586 I've had and the first one I've had shoot well. To be fair, the last one was a new one I bought a few years ago. Couldn't make that thing shoot well as hard as I tried. Ended up trading it in towards the 327 TRR8. That one shoots great, plus I've always preferred the n frames. The first one I had, looked like it had been through a fire and then left in a closet for a couple decades.
jb
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I like that Smith. I could have me some fun with that!
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- 2ndovc
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Thanks Nath!
I gave them another good cleaning. Got all the gunk out of the chambers and not the .357s will drop in and out. Still have some lead in the bores, but I'll get it out eventually.
At least they don't smell like cigarettes anymore. I'm going to have to put the boxes in the attic, they're stinking up my closet.
I need to switch the Dillon back over to .357 and get some loaded. Need to make some for my dad's Pythons and Troopers for his trip back to FL.
jb
I gave them another good cleaning. Got all the gunk out of the chambers and not the .357s will drop in and out. Still have some lead in the bores, but I'll get it out eventually.
At least they don't smell like cigarettes anymore. I'm going to have to put the boxes in the attic, they're stinking up my closet.
I need to switch the Dillon back over to .357 and get some loaded. Need to make some for my dad's Pythons and Troopers for his trip back to FL.
jb
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Getting the gunk out will probably will make them shoot much better.
I used to come home from work and shoot at least 50 rounds of .22 in my back yard every day. But I did not clean that bore for months. Big mistake. I got to where my groups got to be larger than the small steel plates I was shooting at.
The lead came out in ribbons. I don't hesitate to clean bores and chambers now. Hoppes No. 9 is my friend.
I used to come home from work and shoot at least 50 rounds of .22 in my back yard every day. But I did not clean that bore for months. Big mistake. I got to where my groups got to be larger than the small steel plates I was shooting at.
The lead came out in ribbons. I don't hesitate to clean bores and chambers now. Hoppes No. 9 is my friend.
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Hey 2ndovc, have you ever used all-copper Chore Boy to get the lead out? It's something that Bill Wilson recommended in his book, "The Combat 45 Auto". I cut off a piece and wrap it around a worn out bore brush and it works great because the edges are sharp. Being much softer than the bore, it does no damage. I shoot only cast bullets and when I need to get out some stubborn lead, the Chore Boy works best. Be sure you get only the all-copper version, not the copper plated stuff.
- 2ndovc
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Walt,
I've done that in the past with surplus rifles and steel wool /ribbon. I didn't want to do that with the 586, thanks for the suggestion and using copper. That should help.
jb
I've done that in the past with surplus rifles and steel wool /ribbon. I didn't want to do that with the 586, thanks for the suggestion and using copper. That should help.
jb
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Nice guns jb and thanks for sharing your shooting.
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
I have had good luck with Ed's red. Not sure with seriously leaded barrels.
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Put a handfull of coffee in an old Tshirt and leave it in a big cardboard box with the gun boxes. It will help.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Good idea! I'll stick the grips from the 586 in there too. They still stink after being soaked in Hoppe's. Post Covid, more specifically the second shot, some things still smell really bad. Cigarettes are one, among others that are really offensive. One of my wife's perfumes smells like gasoline now, but the rest are fine. Seems to be totally random. Not going anywhere those boosters.
jb
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Jason, not to go off topic, but it is your post and your comment, so I figure I'm safe.
I caught COVID on a cruise ship at the end of June. Fairly mild symptoms, mainly an annoying cough and exhaustion for almost 2 weeks. I did loose some of my sense of taste - but only some of it. I could tastes fruits fine, but meat was completely tasteless. Just strange. Fortunately all my sense of taste is back.
I caught COVID on a cruise ship at the end of June. Fairly mild symptoms, mainly an annoying cough and exhaustion for almost 2 weeks. I did loose some of my sense of taste - but only some of it. I could tastes fruits fine, but meat was completely tasteless. Just strange. Fortunately all my sense of taste is back.
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Glad to hear you're doing better, YK. My wife had it although two of the at-home tests she took were negative. My son and his wife got it as well but they're over it now. If I had it, the symptoms were very mild. Being in close proximity with my family, I can't imagine that I didn't have it as well.
- 2ndovc
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Hey Walt,
Your copper wool suggestion was just the ticket! The bore looks great!
I'm hoping to get out with it again this week. Need to turn out some more .357s as well as test some .44 Specials for my Cimarron.
Jay,
No worries. It's been over a year and some things are still out of whack. My wife had that perfume on again this morning that to me, smells like pure gasoline. I think she does it on purpose at this point so she doesn't get molested on the way out the door in morning.
jb
Your copper wool suggestion was just the ticket! The bore looks great!
I'm hoping to get out with it again this week. Need to turn out some more .357s as well as test some .44 Specials for my Cimarron.
Jay,
No worries. It's been over a year and some things are still out of whack. My wife had that perfume on again this morning that to me, smells like pure gasoline. I think she does it on purpose at this point so she doesn't get molested on the way out the door in morning.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
I have a 586 with a 6-inch barrel. It's one hell of a shooter!
Now I don't have a Vaquero, but I do have a few Blackhawk Flattops.
Enjoy plugging away at your targets!
As it cools down, I'll be doing some shooting myself.
I can't think of a better way to spend the afternoon!
Johnny
Now I don't have a Vaquero, but I do have a few Blackhawk Flattops.
Enjoy plugging away at your targets!
As it cools down, I'll be doing some shooting myself.
I can't think of a better way to spend the afternoon!
Johnny
Re: Short range report with the .357s
I had a 586 several years ago. It easily shot as accurately as both of my Bill Davis custom guns. At fifty yards shooting off a rest, it would put five shots inside an inch. It’s still the most accurate production revolver I’ve ever owned, and almost the equal of the custom guns.
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JB said "One of my wife's perfumes smells like gasoline now, but the rest are fine".
We've just had covid and one of my wife's perfumes smells like herbicide!
We've just had covid and one of my wife's perfumes smells like herbicide!
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Covid messed with a few scents for me.
D. Brian Casady
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Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Re: Short range report with the .357s
Hey, 2ndovc;
I'm glad the Chore Boy worked for you. I don't need it often but when I do, it works great.
I'm glad the Chore Boy worked for you. I don't need it often but when I do, it works great.
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I had to respectfully ask the lady who helps me at my office a couple times a week to stop wearing fragrance recently
The whole place would smell like White Diamonds or Charlie or whatever it was for days. It took me months to break it to her, but sheesh, she works less than 10 hours per week and I had to suffer the remaining 40 or 50.
That said, if she were a domestic partner or wife, I probably would’ve kept my mouth shut
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Re: Short range report with the .357s
Streetstar wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:17 am
I had to respectfully ask the lady who helps me at my office a couple times a week to stop wearing fragrance recently
The whole place would smell like White Diamonds or Charlie or whatever it was for days. It took me months to break it to her, but sheesh, she works less than 10 hours per week and I had to suffer the remaining 40 or 50.
That said, if she were a domestic partner or wife, I probably would’ve kept my mouth shut
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For those interested in treating that issue, there are several protocols to rectify taste and smell distortions after covid. Flccc.net is one resource for those. I found a combination of Alkalol nasal spray several times a day combined with 4 weeks of ivermectin at around 30 mg a day for most average sized individuals to work. If that fails, I use low dose naltrexone.
As always, you need to work out the details with your personal physician because other medications or allergies or medical conditions could make things quite different.
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"Average size person". inner Viking laughs....
I will ask at my next appointment.
Thanks Doc!
jb
I will ask at my next appointment.
Thanks Doc!
jb
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I have to hold my breath to count naltrexone. Even the smell of it makes me projectile vomit. I make sure the techs count that med.
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If you like Stag Grips take a look at samsgungrips. One of the best stagripmakers that I know.
https://www.samsgungrips.ch/
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Ravenman, Welcome back, just thinking about you the other day. Still have the Swiss Army Knife you sent me in my Jeep.
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Thank you for the link! Beautiful work.Ravenman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:36 am If you like Stag Grips take a look at samsgungrips. One of the best stagripmakers that I know.
https://www.samsgungrips.ch/
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i take Wellbutrin (Bupropion ) - recently got a variation id never seen before --- its pink and smells like flatulence. i have to turn my head away when i crack open the bottle (unexpected thread drift)
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The Swiss Army Knife is every day and always the right tool in any situation. Hope you doing well and Greetings from Switzerland!Old Savage wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:45 am Ravenman, Welcome back, just thinking about you the other day. Still have the Swiss Army Knife you sent me in my Jeep.
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