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I sent my oldest to school with a metal spoon for his yogurt. I might as well have packed an AK with a 90 round drum for the reaction I got from the school. No, I don't think we'll wait for the system on this one.
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
I've been following this story in the Worcester Telegram on-line. (It's the paper serving the area I moved from.) In actuality, the boy is fortunate not to have been arrested for possesing ammunition without a firearms identification (FID) card. Massachusetts firearms law underwent a major revision in 1998, when it became a crime to possess even empty cases
without that card. Since the 1998 laws went into effect, a Massachusetts resident cannot legally possess ANY firearm, ammunition, or components thereof without an FID card. A separate license to carry firearms is needed to have a handgun in your possession away from your residence.
All firearms must be "securely stored," which at minimum requires all firearms to have trigger locks. (Initially, the pols wanted the reenactors in Concord and Lexington to place trigger locks on their flintlock muskets!)
ALL firearms in Massachusetts are supposed to be registered with the Firearms Records Bureau and and the records - flawed, as I can personally attest - are instantly available to law enforcement agencies through the Criminal Justice Information System. The 1998 laws are - in my estimation - draconian and were right up there in the reasons to leave the state when I retired. I could go on about this, but I'm sure you can get a good sense of the BS that goes on up there. Bad cess to the lot of them!
Riamh Nar Dhruid O Spairn Lann
- motto on the Irish Regiments' flags
It is common practice to give family members expended brass from the funeral firing detail. It is often tucked into the folded flag given to family. I wonder how many felons MA has that have no idea...
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
airedaleman wrote:I've been following this story in the Worcester Telegram on-line. (It's the paper serving the area I moved from.) In actuality, the boy is fortunate not to have been arrested for possesing ammunition without a firearms identification (FID) card. Massachusetts firearms law underwent a major revision in 1998, when it became a crime to possess even empty cases
without that card.
...but I thought that was Romney territory, and the big media says he's a "conservative" and "pro-gun"
Hobie wrote:It is common practice to give family members expended brass from the funeral firing detail. It is often tucked into the folded flag given to family. I wonder how many felons MA has that have no idea...
When I hear of laws like that I wish they actually WOULD enforce them, and against EVERYONE, EN MASSE. Maybe arresting and hauling off to jail hundreds or even thousands of harmless citizens would get the 79.9 million gun owners in this country motivated for once... Nah...
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This is one place where I'd be strongly in favor court action. The law is unreasonable and needs to be overturned. Furthermore, I'd like to see a massive lawsuit brought against that school district for emotional trauma inflicted on the child (or whatever other distress, etc.). I'm not a fan of lawsuits, but I think they work well to stop ridiculous stuff and the abuse of authority.
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Makes one wonder if these well educated officials would know what to do if some really tough thugs invaded their school, shot up the place, and scared them half to death? Grabbing a young innocent kid like this probably made someone feel real important. An empty shell case, imagine if it had been a live round? Someone would have had a heart attack.
To hell with them fellas, buzzards gotta eat same as the worms.
Outlaw Josey Wales
Boys and girls, it ain't just Taxachusetts. My wife taught special education in the public school system within a suburb of San Antonio, Texas for several years and she finally quit this year in disgust over the state of affairs. The stuff she tells me is just flat crazy...they had a kid who would throw fits so they put him in an empty classroom with a teacher observing and let him break furniture. She said nobody could restrain him unless he was trying to hurt himself or someone else. It's pure insanity...
About ten years ago, my youngest son was attending our middle school and was given a marijuana joint at lunch break by a boy who sold drugs at school. My son didn't tell a teacher (his mistake) and flushed it down the toilet before going to class. Someone saw him do it so he was arrested and accused of possession. He freely admitted what happened but guess what?...the junkie kid denied everything so he walked and my son was put in the "alternative school" for six weeks. Up until that time, he had PERFECT grades and attendance through the sixth grade (yes, no absences and nothing but A grades) but all of that went out the window. His school performance was never the same, in large part because when he returned, he had a 'label' attached to his file. He told me later that this incident was when he started distrusting adults and lying when he thought it was necessary to save his skin - since telling the truth didn't pay off. I reckon he learned a real lesson that day...
The story YK posted is nutty but pretty indicative of the thinking in the public school systems, most of which happened post Columbine and after the lawyers got ahold of it. About the only place you'll see any semblance of sense is when you get into the smaller districts where teachers, parents and kids all know each other. There are still a few places where the children are placed to learn - and not to be wards of state-funded daycare while the parents work.
i would take a guess and say that ted kennedy and john kerry had some say so in the gun laws in mass...but they too, need to be removed from public service.
if you think you're influencial, try telling someone else's dog what to do---will rogers
Comal Forge wrote:Boys and girls, it ain't just Taxachusetts.
When my wife and I lived in Colorado Springs there was an article about an elementary school girl who accidentally switched lunch bags with her Mom one morning (identical brown paper bags). When she opened her lunch she found a small paring knife in the bag to cut an apple. She took it up to the teacher and explained what happened. I believe she was initially expelled - it may have been reduced to a significant suspension by the time it was resolved, but I'm not sure.
That is the problem with "zero tolerance" policies. There are absolutely times when people abuse discretion with which they are entrusted, but when people are never allowed to exercise discretion in the first place the result is equally bad. (Though people with any sense would just ignore the zero tolerance policy anyway.)
Somehow we have to convince those who support zero tolerance policies and those who think that they have to act like every kid is the next school shooter to pull their heads out of their arses.
Michael in NH
"The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." -- John Steinbeck
Do not take this the wrong way but we get what we deserve. You elect them, appoint them, etc., you take what comes. Until this lesson is learned and taken to heart, more is sure to come. Very sad. 1886.
Where as this is a fine example of idiocy run amok, some of the blame has to go back to the poor job of parenting that seems common in today's society. Back in the day I carried a pocket knife to school every day - as did most boys. I remember teachers all through elementary, middle and high school asking to borrow it from time to time. No one would have ever remotely thought that kids would go nuts and try to kill as many students and teachers as possible before taking their own life. Kids were simply raised better then.
My Dad used to walk me in to meet the teacher each year, and explain that they had his permission to use corporal punishment on me any time I needed it. I never did at school - because I knew it would be 10 times worse when I got home! A healthy fear of consequences is a great substitute for common sense until the latter can be fine tuned!
Which, BTW, is why no one has seen any posts from "Ysabel Kid's Kid". Between end-of-year testing, and a little incident at school, YKK has not been on the computer. I got a call last week from the Assistant Principle that a "bullying report" had been filled out on my son. I asked what had happen (BP going through the roof at this point), and was informed that he had called a girl that was teasing him a "bad name" (rhymes with "witch"). I asked what else, and that was it - but the girl had filled out a "bullying report", so he had to take action. No suspension - I am fortunate to be in a small school district where common sense still seems to be a common commodity. They did take away his recess for a day. I told the principle to do it for the rest of the school year!
So, the boy is being punished - no computer, no video games, no TV. He wrote apology letters to the girl, his teacher and the Assistant Principle today. As I told him, insulting females or laying a hand on them is never acceptable, is dishonorable, and will not be tolerated. He missed his buddy's birthday party today due to the grounding, so I think the lesson is being learned.
If more parents would focus on parenting first, we wouldn't be in half the trouble we are in this world...
When my 16 year old son's grade started slipping, we pulled him out of track. Every year he struggles during track season to maintain his 4.0 gpa. Of course we were bad parents for doing so...even though our son didn't think that. I believe one teacher/coach called our decision "unfortunate"...
