Chairmen of the Politically Incorrect

fordwannabe · Post by **fordwannabe** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:18 am

I win!!
Hey Gunny can a 357 cylinder be reamed to 38-40?????

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:10 am

Hmm, off hand im not sure of COAL for each. Also neck diameter for each, throats. But yeah I like that train of thought!!

fordwannabe · Post by **fordwannabe** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:14 am

I have a 4 and half ish inch SUper Blackhawk in 44 mag that I can shoot Specials out of but I don't have any handgun in 38-40 or 44-40 sooooo my train of thought has transferred tracks. I have two older Marlins in 38-40 and I think 38-40 might be more interesting than 44 special.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:09 pm

fordwannabe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:18 am I win!!
Hey Gunny can a 357 cylinder be reamed to 38-40?????

Off the top of my head, I would say yes. The 38-40 isn't a 38, it measures .401. You would just need to see if the O.D of a .357 case is smaller than the neck dimension of a 38-40, and I'm pretty sure it is.
Of course, you'd need to re-barrel or re-bore too.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:13 pm

OldWin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:09 pm
fordwannabe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:18 am I win!!
Hey Gunny can a 357 cylinder be reamed to 38-40?????
Off the top of my head, I would say yes. The 38-40 isn't a 38, it measures .401. You would just need to see if the O.D of a .357 case is smaller than the neck dimension of a 38-40, and I'm pretty sure it is.
Of course, you'd need to re-barrel or re-bore too.

Thats what I was getting at, provided the 357 OD is small enough to clean up with the 38/40 reamer ya should be good to go. You would have to compare cartridge drawings. Should be as simple as reaming chambers/ throat & a new b-b-b-barrel.
When John Gallagher and I did my single six we were making cylinders on a rotary head mill. But we were turning our own cylinders. In this case you already have holes through, might want to open those up to a few thousandths under size, then run the reamer in to cut the chamber/ throats. Much easier on the reamer to take light cuts. Heck ya could probably cut them by hand. Oh and make absolutely certain to POLISH each chamber!!!!!

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:04 pm

WHEW!
On the job this morning, boss man's wife calls to relay a message from coworkers sister that she tested positive. OH GREAT!!!

. So he leaves to go get a rapid test done. Thankfully it was NEGATIVE. Since his sister tested positive he has been wearing a mask at home. She teaches pre-k cookie crunchers and as norma,l parents send their sick kids off to skool. Hasn't this 'pandemic ' taught the world anything!?
Ok so now I dont have to scramble to get Mom to her doctor appointment tomorrow AND I can go shootin Sunday!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:21 pm

Gunny, did you get to go shooting ?

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:11 pm

No, tropical storm/ hurricane Henri has been dumping rain since Saturday night. I suppose I could have grabbed my heavy rain gear and my Benelli and gone shootin but I KNOW better!!

Luckily no heavy wind being well west of the track so just constant rain all day.So wet not even the girls would go outside, had to practicallydrag them out!. Fortunately the power stayed on.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:42 am

We had a severe weather warning but it stayed dry and was quite a pleasant weekend. I keep seeing weather warnings but so far nothing out of the ordinary.
Still didn't get to go shooting

I took my SxS .410 down to show Shirley, she was thinking of selling her Mossberg 20 gauge pump and buying a SxS I said the pump is a better gun for her needs even though it is permanently restricted to 3 shots. Since the shooting in Plymouth there's been a lot of speculation that pumps and semiautos will be banned in the UK but I personally don't think that will happen, as the Plymouth shooting was the result of a police cockup.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:00 am

Been just kinda rainy and lousy here. Not hot at all but muggy.
Be some glad when it clears out.

Hoping for my new toy today.
I will fill you guys in when I get it.

All I'm saying is I've wanted one for a long time.
Figured if I didn't do it now, I never would.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:42 am

A 50 BMG levergun ?

I got a text from one of my shooting buddies, they had the All Clays shoot yesterday, 25 targets each of skeet, trap, wobble trap and bunker. Apparently the rain held off until late afternoon ( not what my radar showed), my luck if I drove out there it would have poured!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:50 pm

Well at least you gave the others a chance to shine Gunny..

Jay is keeping us in suspense, I hope he post a few pictures of his new toy, I hope it ain't a Daisy RedRider.....

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:19 pm

Well this happened......
It's no secret that I've always wanted a 4.75 Colt. I mean since I was a kid.
I've been lucky to get 2 good Colts. A 1st gen 45, and a second gen .357. Problem is, they are both 5.5. The short answer would be to sell one and get a 4.75, but my sons prefer the 5.5, so I don't want to sell them.
I had kind of decided I wanted a 44 Special, but they are only a custom shop item now and I was looking at 3500 bucks and a 2 year wait!

Nope.
So, I settled on another 45. I wanted a recent production, because all reports say the quality has been pretty good lately and they have gone back to the removable cylinder bushing since around 2003.
This one was made very recently. It's braaannnnddyyy new.........
But won't be for long.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:34 pm

Well thats not a 50 BMG! Looks very pretty( close up would be nice

) ya got all week to break it in, let us know how it shoots!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:57 pm

GunnyMack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:34 pm Well thats not a 50 BMG! Looks very pretty( close up would be nice ) ya got all week to break it in, let us know how it shoots!

Click the pic, you can bring it in more.

fordwannabe · Post by **fordwannabe** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:22 pm

Congratulations Jay. That sure is purty. Isn't it nice to et somethin you have always wanted and never figured you'd get. WELL DONE SIR!

Post by **Old Savage** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:01 pm

Ok OW, mine is a 79. Congrats, one of the all time classics!!!! I have a couple of 5.5” s also. The 4.75 is a prize !!!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:35 pm

Thank you guys. Much appreciated. I always liked yours OS.
Pitchy has a 3rd gen 44 Special 4.75 tuned by Bob Munden. It's pretty sweet.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:55 am

Well if I ever found a lamp with a Genie in it a Colt exactly like that would be my preference...... congratulations....

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:40 am

OldWin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:57 pm
GunnyMack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:34 pm Well thats not a 50 BMG! Looks very pretty( close up would be nice ) ya got all week to break it in, let us know how it shoots!
Click the pic, you can bring it in more.

Well yeah but the other side- case hardening has to be seen from all sides to really appreciate it!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:48 am

GunnyMack wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:40 am
OldWin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:57 pm
GunnyMack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:34 pm Well thats not a 50 BMG! Looks very pretty( close up would be nice ) ya got all week to break it in, let us know how it shoots!
Click the pic, you can bring it in more.
Well yeah but the other side- case hardening has to be seen from all sides to really appreciate it!

HAHA ok bud. Here you go.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:05 am

Thats better! Now go shoot it!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:33 am

GunnyMack wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:05 am Thats better! Now go shoot it!

Haha yeah. I'm going to wear the finish off it just handling it! It is stupid hot here today. Supposed to cool down at the end of the week. Probably wait till then.....if I can.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:18 pm

Hot there- HA! Brutal humidity here, quite toasty at 84 and sawdust, dirt, dead insects all landing on me as we are tearing coke bottles (vinyl siding) off this house. Actually quit a bit early today just because of the yuck weather.
Coworker that tested negative went for a second test, negative, yesterday but doctor said he had to quarantine 10 days so we are down by ¹/³ in man power. Tomorrow we start tearing off the roof/ framing & walls so excavator can start digging for the addition.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:25 pm

Man! I mowed and did the trimming after supper and was soaked with sweat. This sucks. Took a bike ride to cool down and then came inside where it's cool. I hate the heat.
Strange thing is, the lawn is still growing like crazy. Usually it's all burned up by the 1st of July. We've had a lot of rain I guess.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:24 am

Hey who took the roof?!

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fordwannabe · Post by **fordwannabe** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:44 pm

Soooo Master Gunny... what did you find out about the reaming of 357 mag to 38-40?

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:03 pm

Ummmmmmmmm....hmmmmmmm...well.... Iforgot

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:10 pm

SAMMI SPECS-

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Gotta look at COAL & throat dimensions closely but im not 100% on that yet.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:13 pm

357 is 1.290
38-40 is 1.305
So the chamber should clean up fine, then its just a matter of boring the through holes and a new barrel.
I might suggest another cylinder be made for moon clips for 10mm/ 40 short & weak but that'll cost a bit more clams!

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:59 pm

Oh hey I forgot!
The floor guy called , said he was ready to move the safe. This is the house we are in the midst of finishing. The owner is a gun guy, this is in the living room.

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Gotta sat that is a very nice safe!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:02 am

Pretty cool setup. My dad has a 60 gun safe in his gun room. It isn't recessed though.
He, my uncle, and myself put it in his cellar. It was NOT fun. We lowered it down the rollway stairs with the winch on the Jeep. Then had to move it a long way, through 2 doorways, to the gunroom. I told him, "if wasn't inheriting all this, I'd never have done it".

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:40 am

Yeah Jay I helped a buddy get his down his basement steps, he & i were struggling when all of a sudden a guy stops gets out of his truck and helps us. That struck up a friendship and he started hunting with us. When I got my safe I hired a moving company, well worth every penny!

Mine is in my basement , I should get one of those Snap Safe jobs for upstairs to put in a closet but first I gotta pay for truck repairs! Front end on my 07 is shot, ball joints, tie rods, alignment. All for the Low Low price of $2200! So much for my SO4... (Maybe that guy will let me make payments?)

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:10 am

Holy smokes! 2200 bucks. It's crazy how expensive everything is now. Sorry man. I hate spending money on stuff like that.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:34 am

I can't complain, I ordered the truck in 2006, all I have had to do so far is brakes, tires and a water pump. Brakes & tires are a given so im not complaining too much. I know how difficult it is to get those ball joints out- did em on my 01 and it required a lot of cussing and a 20 ton hydraulic press!

Another hot one today! Was drenched by 10am, rest of the roof is off, now to finish gutting inside. We've made 30 yards of junk already!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:05 pm

Yeah. They are never fun. We put new ones in Old Red a couple years ago. Wasn't too bad, but I don't mind working on Jeeps. Especially when I don't need it to go to work.
Probably wouldn't do it on my truck.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:43 pm

Anything with wheels or breasts is going to cost money at some point....

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:11 pm

gamekeeper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:43 pm Anything with wheels or breasts is going to cost money at some point....

Truer words have never been spoken.

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:19 pm

Huh, I've always said 2 legs & ovaries is down right nuts!

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:15 pm

3 tons of wood pellets delivered yesterday. This morning I decided I was going to build a box , make a chute and just pour the pellets into the box without going up and down the stairs each & every bag.
I forgot about taking pictures while the chute was up, 8" PVC that I cut in half.
This holds 2 tons, I still have another ton to find a home for.
Oh and I built this on casters so I can roll this around with a simple lever and very little grunting

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:42 pm

Well, look at you go.
I'm at work. I don't like it, but as my wife reminded me Friday, I've worked about 7 days all summer so.....

Still don't like it.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:25 pm

Geeze....talk about boredom........this whole Leverguns thing is about exciting as watching a bunch of drunk Irishmen trying to screw in a light bulb because they couldn't read "turn to

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:42 pm

Hey buddy! Great to hear from you!
You saw my new toy?

I would have bought one of yours but I can't afford em!

I didn't remember you having a 4.75 either.
Now I have to start replenishing my "stash"

Good score on the cartridges man! I love that old stuff. I have a bunch, but nothing like you.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:58 pm

Well that just made my year!

Got a text from my kid. He had my grandson out squirrel hunting at the ripe old age of 3. Had him shooting the 10/22 I bought for my son when he was about 9. My son shot a squirrel while Clay watched what went on. Then took it home, had him help dress, cook, and eat it.
He said he can't wait to call Gramp and tell him about it.
I started my son about the same age. I have always been convinced that the younger someone is when you correctly teach them something, the better the result.

He also told me a couple buds were way out in the mountains and shot 2 deer. They got one, but couldn't get the other, so my son hiked several miles through pretty tough, mountainous country and packed it out for them all alone. I told him I hoped he at least got some meat. He told me they gave him half. I don't remember being that young.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:01 am

Jay, it's good to hear the tradition of starting them right continues and long may it do so.....

Gunny is going to be snug as a bug this winter.....

Sixgun , well he's just still being Sixgun !!!......

Me, I'm so deprived of anything resembling a handgun I have just ordered a Colt Woodsman, ONLY PROBLEM IS IT IS A SPRING POWERED BB PISTOL......

Still it only cost a few bucks and I can use my imagination.....

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GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:27 am

Did you give all those Ben's for all those old boxes or did you clean house and get those ben's? A 100 bill weighs about 15 grains, a pound( not British)is approximately $470,000 .

Sure I'll be warm, but I'm still hurting after all that- still more to do. Beats cutting, splitting, stacking firewood though.

Well do I feel up to go shooting...?

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:20 am

Hey wait, are they from that Nigerian guy?

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:53 am

GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:27 am Did you give all those Ben's for all those old boxes or did you clean house and get those ben's? A 100 bill weighs about 15 grains, a pound( not British)is approximately $470,000 .

Sure I'll be warm, but I'm still hurting after all that- still more to do. Beats cutting, splitting, stacking firewood though.

Well do I feel up to go shooting...?

Thank you, my friend.
Made me happy to hear about the tradition continuing.
Just sucks having them so far away.
We have another grandson on the way too! I gotta buy more guns!

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:20 am

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:45 pm

Woooo! Selling an 86 buddy? That's a lotta bones!
I'd like another one. Thing is, I don't use the one I have haha.
I gotta get another stash saved up and get down there for some shopping. Problem is, I'm like a homeless dude on 5th Avenue when I'm at your place buddy hahaha!

It dawned on me the other day.....
Ole Six should have started a YouTube channel! Now THAT would have been entertainment!
Let's see....
The Sixgun Chronicles......Redneck in Paradise......?

I know he wouldn't do it. Neither would I. Ole Six likes to be low profile like me. Wouldn't have it any other way.