Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101( S&W wins this time)
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- 2ndovc
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Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101( S&W wins this time)
I've been looking at both and there are a couple of each that I like but haven't decided yet. I've had exceptional revolvers from both S&W and Ruger, but I've had some real stinkers from both as well.
This isn't going to replace my pocket autos and I'll continue to carry my G26, Sig P238 or Commander on occasion, the revolver will be in addition to the pack. The 9mm Shield has been taken out of the rotation. Logical or not, I'm not confident in it as much as I was.
So,
Which one are you packing these days?
jb
This isn't going to replace my pocket autos and I'll continue to carry my G26, Sig P238 or Commander on occasion, the revolver will be in addition to the pack. The 9mm Shield has been taken out of the rotation. Logical or not, I'm not confident in it as much as I was.
So,
Which one are you packing these days?
jb
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
Jason, I pack neither revolver currently, but have owned and shot both and prefer the beefier build of the SP101. Might need a bit of trigger work, but you'll never wear it out.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
SP1001 with 2 1/2" barrel in 357. Great little gun fits my hand great, great for shooting more than just standard 38 loads. But Im not the least bit opionated about them.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
The Ruger will hold up better on a steady diet of hot loads...
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
No doubt that the SP101 will stand up longer to heavy loads. And if you want to shoot out to 25 yards accurately, it is good for that.
But, I don't know that I will ever shoot enough heavy loads through my J frame to wear it out and it is definitely smaller and lighter for pocket carry. I'll take the j frame in as light a configuration as I can get.
But, I don't know that I will ever shoot enough heavy loads through my J frame to wear it out and it is definitely smaller and lighter for pocket carry. I'll take the j frame in as light a configuration as I can get.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
We had a couple of SP-101 2005 or so, a 2 1/4" and 3". Both shot POA/POI at 25 yards. The biggest aggravation with those revolvers was sharp edges on the trigger guards and/or trigger, as well as that plastic insert that goes in the grip. Once those things were corrected, they were fine. These are tough, accurate little revolvers that won't pee down their leg if you feed them hot 200 grain hardcast. If I was still fooling with the 357, I'd probably have a short SP-101 around.
I’ve shot several old S&W Model 38s and just recently, got to shoot a friend’s pre-lock 638 quite a bit. In my mind they are what a pocket gun should be. That little 638 was dead on with 158s and I managed to go 5 for 5 on a 4” spinner at 15 paces, twice in a row with it. Wish I’d bought a couple of them before prices went nuts.
I’ve shot several old S&W Model 38s and just recently, got to shoot a friend’s pre-lock 638 quite a bit. In my mind they are what a pocket gun should be. That little 638 was dead on with 158s and I managed to go 5 for 5 on a 4” spinner at 15 paces, twice in a row with it. Wish I’d bought a couple of them before prices went nuts.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
Smith Model 63 and 60,and sp's in 32 h&r ,32 federal. Much prefer the grips. trigger pull and lighter weight of the Smiths, bought the sp's because they're 32's. I'm really liking 32's alot more lately.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
For a pocket gun that you really do not notice in your pocket, the S&W 340 is hard to beat ...
When it goes off it lights up the place. Not pleasant to shoot with heavy loads but they will do the job if you can.
The gun is much nicer with wadcutters in .38 Special cases with 3 gr. of Bullseye.
When it goes off it lights up the place. Not pleasant to shoot with heavy loads but they will do the job if you can.
The gun is much nicer with wadcutters in .38 Special cases with 3 gr. of Bullseye.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
If you miss, it looks like the fireball will get them anyway!
The 340 is on the short list as is the 640 Pro, though the 649 is stainless and weight wise is close to the Ruger. I've narrowed down the SP ot a blue/black one in .357 and the 2 1/4" barrel. Willing to be I'll end up with a Smith and a Ruger, try them both for a few months and put one in a drawer somewhere and use the heck out of the other.
jb
The 340 is on the short list as is the 640 Pro, though the 649 is stainless and weight wise is close to the Ruger. I've narrowed down the SP ot a blue/black one in .357 and the 2 1/4" barrel. Willing to be I'll end up with a Smith and a Ruger, try them both for a few months and put one in a drawer somewhere and use the heck out of the other.
jb
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
S&W. Specifically a pre WWII model.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
I have several J-frames, but I have almost bought one of the SP 101's on a couple of occasions. The Ruger may be more shootable, being a slightly beefier gun, which I guess is the reason I didn't buy one, because I prefer the lighter J-frame for actual carry in the application that I would use one in. Still, I might have to give the SP 101 a try one of these days.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
New Colt King Cobra 3" in .357. Its built on their D frame size but is 6 shot, not 5. Hold one at the gun store and see what you think.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
The Colt is a very nice revolver but it essentially duplicates the Speed Six that I have. It's great for belt carry but it a little big/ heavy for what I'm looking for presently. I'll probably pick up one eventually. We've always been a Colt family, my dad loves his new Python.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
SP101 is sturdier and stainless. The Smith is a Smith and lighter.
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
Thanks Capt. Obvious!
This afternoon I stopped by a shop where I was able to handle an SP 101 and compare it to a new S&W 442. I was instantly reminded why I'd liked the 642 I'd given to one of the boys and bought it. The Ruger is a nice revolver, but the S&W fit for what I was looking for.
Thanks for all the input, pretty much reinforced what I was thinking. I was hoping the Ruger would work, but it's not that much smaller or lighter than my Speed Six.
Plus this new S&W doesn't have that stupid keyhole on the side either!
jb
This afternoon I stopped by a shop where I was able to handle an SP 101 and compare it to a new S&W 442. I was instantly reminded why I'd liked the 642 I'd given to one of the boys and bought it. The Ruger is a nice revolver, but the S&W fit for what I was looking for.
Thanks for all the input, pretty much reinforced what I was thinking. I was hoping the Ruger would work, but it's not that much smaller or lighter than my Speed Six.
Plus this new S&W doesn't have that stupid keyhole on the side either!
jb
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Re: Ok Guys. J-Frame or SP 101?
I bought a 3" SP101 a few years ago and for a shooter it's top shelf. The problem is the 3" barrel makes it less than handy as a pocket gun. On the other hand my 2" S&W 640 is great and almost as heavy. Neither is comfortable to shoot with full power .357 loads.
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