Any H&R experts here?

[Bill in Oregon]

A widowed friend asked if I knew anything about these tow H&R shotgun/pistols. The one on the left just might be a 28-gauge Handy Gun but I am unsure about the one on the right. I realize there could be NFA issues with both of these.
Any ideas, info?
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[gamekeeper]

The one on the right looks very similar to a Stevens, I wouldn't say no to either of those...

[Mike Armstrong]

The one on the right is very likely a Stevens, but it looks like it has been re-barrelled with a shotgun barrel, possibly even a barrel from one of the original Stevens tip-up shotguns.

Check the BATFE list of C&R and exempted Class 3 guns to see if that "Handy Gun" is exempt. The other one almost certainly isn't. While you're doing that, I'd keep those receivers as far as possible from those barrels and NOT give any LEO probable cause to search your place.

About the best outcome I can see for these would be to find an original Stevens Tip-up target pistol barrel to fit the Stevens pistol action, and dump that shotgun barrel, if that's what it is. If the Handi-Gun is exempt, you have a winner. If not, you have some parts and a set of barrels that MIGHT find another home.....

The Stevens ACTION may be antique (pre-1898), but I'm pretty sure its short shotgun barrel is still verboten by federal law. I think all those H&Rs are post-1898 and require a current waiver, exemption under the old amnesty plus registration, or a trip to the river for the barrels and receiver and splitting up of the remaining parts.

Somebody else may well chime in and give you better advice, but that's the best I've got. It'd be nicer if I'm wrong!

[AJMD429]

Pertinent VIDEO from Forgotten Guns - https://youtu.be/f2fV6M8IAKg

[6pt-sika]

Pertinent VIDEO from Forgotten Guns - https://youtu.be/f2fV6M8IAKg

I thought the long haired guy was a Morphy appraiser and I was right ! He also uses three times more words than necessary . Granted he is helpful just to darn long winded for me .

[FWiedner]

The one on the right is very likely a Stevens, but it looks like it has been re-barrelled with a shotgun barrel, possibly even a barrel from one of the original Stevens tip-up shotguns.

Check the BATFE list of C&R and exempted Class 3 guns to see if that "Handy Gun" is exempt. The other one almost certainly isn't. While you're doing that, I'd keep those receivers as far as possible from those barrels and NOT give any LEO probable cause to search your place.

About the best outcome I can see for these would be to find an original Stevens Tip-up target pistol barrel to fit the Stevens pistol action, and dump that shotgun barrel, if that's what it is. If the Handi-Gun is exempt, you have a winner. If not, you have some parts and a set of barrels that MIGHT find another home.....

The Stevens ACTION may be antique (pre-1898), but I'm pretty sure its short shotgun barrel is still verboten by federal law. I think all those H&Rs are post-1898 and require a current waiver, exemption under the old amnesty plus registration, or a trip to the river for the barrels and receiver and splitting up of the remaining parts.

Somebody else may well chime in and give you better advice, but that's the best I've got. It'd be nicer if I'm wrong!

According to the BATFE, having working components in one's possession is the same as having the forbidden fruit.

[gamekeeper]

Both those guns would be legal in the UK
They would have to go on a firearm license rather than a shotgun license just a bit more BS red tape to go through. My local toyshop is the UK dealer for Bond Arms, if you can convince the police that you need a .45 Derringer for humane despatch or a .410 shot pistol for vermin control you're good to go, he has to bore out the rifling however if it's only classed as a shot pistol.