OT - RL Wilson

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:08 am

This is OT, though I did very much enjoy his book on "Winchesters", which included a ton of beautiful levergun photos! When I was walking around the NRA show Friday (05/16) I saw RL Wilson at the "Blue Book" booth (along with SP Fjestad). IIRC, didn't RL Wilson recently do a little "hard time" for fraud concerning firearms valuation? I seem to remember reading that here, but can't recall the details.

He looked just like he does on TV. Fraud or not, his books are fantastic!

Post by **Hobie** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:29 am

I had read/heard that there were more charges pending. Don't know if that is true and I'm too lazy this morning to do a search.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:42 am

R.L. Wilson did do some time for major fraud involving the sale of some valuable guns. If he's out of the slammer and sitting behind a table, that's something to note.

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:06 am

I'm surprised that he has the effrontery to show his face...

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Mon May 19, 2008 10:51 am

I did a quick look up on Wilson. The sites kept coming up with Zomber and Ellis. Was Wilson working with these two, or a different fraud? Their fraud is quite interesting.

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:41 am

Looks like some pretty shady stuff.

http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/1225/112.html

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Mon May 19, 2008 12:05 pm

I never met the man. I do have a few of his fine books. I read a lot of his problems. It is a given that people lost a lot of money by trusting him!
My opinions may or may not be fair, based on only what I have read.
I belive him to be a phony, with a intimateding demeaner as he conned himself in to being the grand master pujab authority and had the charisma to pull it off. Not too many innocent people go to jail!
Sounds like he tried to keep up a phony lifestyle that he didnt earn. Its a shame as he certainly had talent. Life is like that, people start to belive their own hype. The white gloves, roadster cap, english tweeds, I guess he thought it okay to cheat the probable multi millionairs.

northwoods · Post by **northwoods** » Mon May 19, 2008 2:39 pm

I read something a few days ago that some of the charges were dropped and they may all have been. Did not read throughly or remember all of what I read.
Bob

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Mon May 19, 2008 3:42 pm

Signs of the Times.

II Timothy 3:1-5

Don't be naive. There are difficult times ahead. As the end approaches, people are going to be self-absorbed, money-hungry, self-promoting, stuck-up, profane, contemptuous of parents, crude, coarse, dog-eat-dog, unbending, slanderers, impulsively wild, savage, cynical, treacherous, ruthless, bloated windbags, addicted to lust, and allergic to God. They'll make a show of religion, but behind the scenes they're animals. Stay clear of these people. The Message

Personally .. I am concerned that I have none of those characteristics ...

Kansas Ed · Post by **Kansas Ed** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:37 pm

And speaking of Bill Clinton.......

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:29 pm

Kansas Ed wrote:And speaking of Bill Clinton.......

I am 100% sure it was him. Even if I hadn't recognized him, I was close enough to easily read his name badge. I'm just surprised he was there - and that Fjestad would want to be seen with him!

Jeff Quinn · Post by **Jeff Quinn** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:48 pm

Kansas Ed wrote:And speaking of Bill Clinton.......

And what is worse, Bill Clinton or the millions of people who worship the worthless bastard?

In 1996, he ran for re-election against a decorated war hero who gave his arm for his country, and the vote wasn't even close.

Jim is dead-nuts on with that message. As a nation, we are a corrupt bunch of selfish jerks. I am very thankful for the good that still lives in some folks. It makes it much easier to tolerate the arrogant idiots.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:51 pm

Jeff Quinn wrote:
Kansas Ed wrote:And speaking of Bill Clinton.......
And what is worse, Bill Clinton or the millions of people who worship the worthless bastard?

In 1996, he ran for re-election against a decorated war hero who gave his arm for his country, and the vote wasn't even close.

Jim is dead-nuts on with that message. As a nation, we are a corrupt bunch of selfish jerks. I am very thankful for the good that still lives in some folks. It makes it much easier to tolerate the arrogant idiots.

Jeff - stop pulling your punches and tell us how you really feel!

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon May 19, 2008 10:06 pm

And there's another of the same ilk who's one of the front runners this election.

As for R.L.; no comment.

Mutt · Post by **Mutt** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:15 pm

Back about 1986 or' 87 I talked to the man by phone concerning buying a new Colt SAA . He was very friendly and helpful . Said he mostly didn't deal in new'er Colts but gave me a name in Houston of a retail outlet that had just what I was looking for. Even the price was fair back then. We talked about an hour or so . And gave me several names that I could talk with. He allowed me some very good info that at the time I had never heard . Hated that he got him self into into such a mess. ...................................
Mutt