U.S. Army Corps of Engineers publishes request for comment

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Sorry I just don't think this is political, if others disagree I'll move it. I thought it's an all should see...

"U.S. Army Corps of Engineers publishes request for comment on proposed revision to regulation governing possession of firearms"

Published April 13, 2020

WASHINGTON, DC --The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) today published in the Federal Register a request for comments on a proposed revision to its regulation governing the possession and transportation of firearms at USACE-managed Water Resources Development Projects.
Comments may be submitted one of the following ways on or before June 12, 2020:


The Federal eRulemaking Portal http://www.regulations.gov. The docket number is COE-2018-0008. Instructions for submitting comments are provided on the portal.
E-mail: Firearms@usace.army.mil. Include the docket number, COE-2018-0008, in the subject line of the message.
Mail: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Attn: CECW-CO-N, Steve Austin, 3F68, 441 G Street NW, Washington, DC 20314-1000

The proposed revision to Title 36 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Section 327.13 will align USACE regulations with those of other federal land management agencies and will more appropriately reflect the requirements of current state and local laws authorizing the possession of firearms by individuals. The revision will also eliminate the requirement for individuals to obtain written permission from a District Commander to carry a firearm on USACE-managed lands and waters.

Since the last amendment of this regulation in 2000, many states have passed laws or amended existing laws to provide for the carrying of firearms by private individuals, in particular for self-defense purposes. In addition, the firearm regulations of other federal land management agencies have been amended in recent years to make them more consistent with the law of the state in which the federal lands are located. The current regulation prohibits the possession of firearms unless being used for hunting, at authorized shooting ranges, or if written permission has been received from the District Commander.

https://www.usace.ar....ed-revision-t/
USACE is one of the nation’s largest federal providers of outdoor recreation, managing more than 400 lake and river projects in 43 states. For information on USACE recreation sites and activities, please visit www.CorpsLakes.us."
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Probably should open up the regulations and allow for those who have a license to be able to carry.
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Interesting. Early in my career with USDA, I was in a field office in a small port town on Lake Michigan. Also located there was avery active USACOE Project Office. I got to know a lot of the guys that worked there.
During an average work week, many would travel to Chicago to do engineering surveys, project oversight, etc.
Anyway everyone of them concealed carry (unauthorized & illegally) because of the neighborhoods they had to work in. None of them felt safe w/o packing.
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TraderVic wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:18 am Interesting. Early in my career with USDA, I was in a field office in a small port town on Lake Michigan. Also located there was avery active USACOE Project Office. I got to know a lot of the guys that worked there.
During an average work week, many would travel to Chicago to do engineering surveys, project oversight, etc.
Anyway everyone of them concealed carry (unauthorized & illegally) because of the neighborhoods they had to work in. None of them felt safe w/o packing.
IL here, I carried well before it was legal if I went to Chicago. It's still illegal on public transportation and there have been numerous cases where people have used their firearms, so far no charges, but people are pushing for changes but ...

The reach of Chicago crime including the gentrification of the poorer/criminal element from Chicago crime is clearly getting worse.

Have now had another recent experience so I've now upgraded my vest which is 30 years old and which mostly remained the closet to the bullet proof coat.
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TraderVic wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:18 am Interesting. Early in my career with USDA, I was in a field office in a small port town on Lake Michigan. Also located there was avery active USACOE Project Office. I got to know a lot of the guys that worked there.
During an average work week, many would travel to Chicago to do engineering surveys, project oversight, etc.
Anyway everyone of them concealed carry (unauthorized & illegally) because of the neighborhoods they had to work in. None of them felt safe w/o packing.
I hear that alot, especially from people working for various sectors of the government.

Then at the other extreme there are federal government employees who are allowed to carry handguns everywhere as an official part of their job, yet they are not law-enforcement, nor in jobs placing them in any more danger than the peasants.

Go figure...

Hopefully the attitude is becoming more tolerant of 'gun-toting'.
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AJMD429 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:14 pm
TraderVic wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:18 am Interesting. Early in my career with USDA, I was in a field office in a small port town on Lake Michigan. Also located there was avery active USACOE Project Office. I got to know a lot of the guys that worked there.
During an average work week, many would travel to Chicago to do engineering surveys, project oversight, etc.
Anyway everyone of them concealed carry (unauthorized & illegally) because of the neighborhoods they had to work in. None of them felt safe w/o packing.
I hear that alot, especially from people working for various sectors of the government.

Then at the other extreme there are federal government employees who are allowed to carry handguns everywhere as an official part of their job, yet they are not law-enforcement, nor in jobs placing them in any more danger than the peasants.

Go figure...

Hopefully the attitude is becoming more tolerant of 'gun-toting'.
Long before concealed carry in Illinois, Cicero had 100's of auxiliary police licensed to carry.
Who if anything only saw a police station from inside the cell.
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